I don’t like how this article hyperbolizes the amount of booing. Compare the moments of booing to the very end with the mix of cheers/jeers where that sounds like the entire audience giving a reaction.
Yes it’s important that jorkin depeanus vance got booed but misrepresenting the level of heckling from the crowd isn’t journalism that respects its readers.
Well said!
I’m a union worker and I’m dismayed at the amount of my union brothers who vote for pieces of shit like this. Who buy into their bullshit and actually think that conservatives will help them. Talk about voting against your own interests. If you’re in a union, voting for conservatives is just stupid
Union worker myself. I am also baffled by the strong conservative undercurrent in my fellows’ views. Don’t know how they sustain it.
Bigotry, selfishness, severe lack of intelligence and or basic reasoning skills. I can keep going.
A big part of it is the view that the left “gives money away”. Union jobs are typically labor with long hous and their view is that “I work hard for the money I eared and my taxes go to the lazy”.
I think that’s bullshit obviously, but that is a pretty common sentiment from my experience.
Now that you say that, yeah, I do hear that kinda shit from my older and, ironically, youngest coworkers. I’ve given up arguing with them.
It’s a really hard mindset to break because at it’s surface it make sense. Especially when you focus on fringe cases.
Like I am sure there are people who abuse the system, but it’s not a good life, they don’t make that much off of it. No one is living large off welfare. The “welfare queen” stereotype had been by and large disproven, but has left a lasting effect on people’s opinion.
Personally I rather have a few $ slip through and make sure kids arn’t starving.
That’s another reason US tax system baffles me. Why does it make it so that workers have to pay taxes this way. In my country, salary have very small tax and it’s cut before the money comes into your account at all. So whatever money you egt is yours, there is no feeling of paying taxes at all. While employers will pay taxes and the taxes on profit is a lot more than tax on salary.
I personally think there’s not much point of tax on the salary, they’ll be spending it on other things, and whoever makes profit on that will pay the taxes on their profit. e.g. you get salary no tax, you buy clothes, vehicle, prepared food, etc. and those companies get your money, and they pay tax on profit, and then have expenses which is money that goes to other companies/people who again pay tax on profit, and their expenses goes somewhere else. All in the money is only taxed once, when there is profit. Unlike in every transaction.
I have been thinking about this as well. I am sure there is some probelm with a spending side tax rather than income. Probably subversion of the tax. Undertable deals, street vendors, etc. With income they make the company track and get their cut before you are able to subvert anything.
Also our economy is very credit based with the use of credit cards. If taxes were all collected at point of sale there might be probelms with defaulting and who gets the money if people don’t pay.
I am not an economist. I am sure someone has thought of it already.
If I may propose a counterpoint: all that, in some cases, sure, but certainly also other cases where they started out under the umbrella of the right’s airtight propaganda screen and simply never bothered to get a second opinion, reinforced by the cult-like indoctrination claiming that everybody else is lying anyway.
Propaganda works and it takes an active effort, an effort that is severely discouraged by the existing propaganda environment, to seek out a reality check.
However, while such cases may exist, it is getting harder and harder as time goes on to justify sticking to the FOX propaganda bubble at this point.
You are completely right. There’s an entire ecosystem of right wing propaganda channels out there but most people get their news from their friends. It’s the key phenomenon behind influencer culture. And that’s how most of the damage is done.
If someone has one friend who is considered knowledgeable on current affairs and that one friend watches Fox, chances are that none of his associates will have an accurate understanding of any given topic. And that’s by design. The kind of tripe spread on fox news is inflammatory and salacious. The sort of noxious trash you’d share with friends in private conversation.
I realize this is what TikTok and facebook maximize: The friend effect. People learn from their friends. The kind of lies spread by right wing networks is magnified by social media and Russian bot farms.
God, imagine if Biden had backed the railroad unions… Ahh, what might have been.
The stupidity of that decision still amazes me to this day. “Railroad safety and efficacy during the shipping crisis? No! Let the monopolistic railroads regulate themselves, fuck their workers!”
I’m dismayed at the amount of my union brothers who vote for pieces of shit like this.
There was a period in the 90s when Democrats took the DLC Neoliberal turn, basically abandoned the labor movement, and made it very easy for Republicans to run as White Nationalist labor-ish sounding candidates.
But ten years ago, you’d get some Joe the Plumber asshole whining about how he can’t afford to drive to work because gasoline taxes are too expensive.
Now you’ve got this Yaley prick telling Boston Firefighters they are the Sad Virgins rather than the Woke Chads, because they don’t hate migrants enough.
Karl Rove is rolling in his pile of rent boys right now.
Reading this was like eating an onion.
Fuckin savage caption writing.
[clapping] would have been sufficient but they really wanted to let the hearing impaired feel the awkwardness of the moment.
I think it’s important to note that if you only read headlines here, you might think there was overwhelming disapproval from the firefighters union. If you get your news from right wing rags, you don’t hear the boos, you only hear the cheers. I’d say it was pretty mixed listening to the video, in fact more cheers than jeers. Of course that’s all meaningless as we have been digitally editing crowd reactions for years now and news agencies cherry pick what they want you to hear.
The point is, go out and vote. Don’t you dare think this race is in the bag, it is a hell of a lot closer than articles like this would make you believe and the actual hatred for the right is WAY less than you might imagine.
“Semper Fi guys,” Vance said, seeming to signpost his background as a Marine to get the hecklers to stop.
“Isn’t this a magic incantation that I can invoke anytime to clear me of ill will?”
Bitch you spent 6 months in as a reporter; my dad killed people in a war. You are not the same kinds of Marines.
Semper Fi
Always loyal
J.D. Vance might be on a generational run for the worst VP pick of all time.
Remember when being unable to spell “potato” was enough to derail a political career?
Howard Dean says “yeeeaaaahhhhh!”
At least Gary Hart got some Monkey Business to torpedo his career.
We’re only 16 years off Palin, that’s impressive.
I mean, generations are only ~15ish years apart - so it tracks…
He was speaking to a union in Boston. What did he expect?
Lay off Vance, everyone! The risk of actually showing how stupid and robotic this guy is is that he might get replaced on the VP candidate slot. He’s a terrible choice that’s driving people away, but if he gets replaced literally a bowl of soup would be a better choice.
Nah I think a replacement does worse. Not because the replacement would be worse, but it shows insane weakness/ stupidity/ inability to have a coherent strategy on the part of a Trump campaign. It shows that these guys don’t know what it takes to win an election; and giving your vote to a team that doesn’t know how to win an election is a wasted vote. Its the same as why Biden was struggling; losing charges compound interest because viability is a key component of whether or not people vote for you. If you aren’t perceived as viable because of your polling, it bites double.
…so you’re suggesting some kind of “replacement theory”… Go on…those dumb dumbs would hate if the meaning of that phrase got flipped. lol
Hasn’t the filing deadline in most states already passed?
You get into the role of electors, who are supposed to submit the votes for who best represents the state’s choice or something like that. This was written back when it would take weeks to get to DC, so who knows what would be there.
Yes, but RFK may or may not be. And at this point trump might put the wrong RFK on his ticket and get the brain worm guy instead of the dead politician.
The more I think about it, the more I expect RFK will replace him.
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Stolen Squalor.
Hahaha
To the moon with this coment, LOL.
Sadly I didn’t think of it, but I’m determined to spread it around because it’s so frigging brilliant.
Some folk’ll never fuck a couch,
But then again some folk’ll.
Like JD the fake hillbilly yokel
Couch fucker.
Our VP choices are friendly coach or couch fucker
I enjoy friendly coach, he’s adorable.
Public speaking is hard, even for people who aren’t massively awkward lickspittle cretins.
lickspittle
I’m so glad this term is coming back into modern usage. It showed up twice in one episode of HOTD (and a few others) and I was happy to hear it.
Also, how tf has JDV been a politician for this long without the ability to be likeable and/or know his audience for a public speaking event? Holy shit.
If it matters, I didn’t hear it recently at all, and it’s not a word I use often - it’s just that when I went deep into my lexicon for the best word for him, that’s what I came up with. Maybe the lickspittles are the ones bringing it back.
I feel like I could do a better job than this guy and I am not a public speaker.
It really is kind of inspirational, It makes me feel better about how normal I am in comparison
*LIVE: JD Vance meets firefighters union in Boston *
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yn7hUlBkx0
34:30
46,858 views Streamed 11 hours ago
Oof. Homeboy has the presence of a used blood boy.
From urban dictionary:
blood boy
A young man who is a healthy specimen (no drinking, smoking, drugs, possibly vegan) and is hired by an tech billionaire to be a source of youthful, healthy blood for him, via regular transfusions.
I had to look it up, but it’s wonderfully accurate. Thank you for teaching me a new term.
It might be time to swap JD for Bobby Brainworm.
You mean ole Whaley McChainsaw?
You can’t use that, it’s not even close to the weirdest thing he has done.
