Bread is CIVILIZATION

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    Bread is best as a butter or cheese delivery vehicle.

    No matter how you slice it, only the upper crust of bread society can cut it as a standalone food.

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    Yeah but that factory white bread in the supermarket is literally the devil. How else can it stay good for so long?

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      Factory white bread is just misunderstood. It’s not meant for anything fancy, it’s designed for PBnJ or a quick bologna sandwich. If you’re putting more than a slice of cheese and ultra processed meat slurry on it, you’re misusing it.

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    Bread is still one of those real old school basic foods, that comes with a decent somewhat similar old school basic price.

    I don’t care if it’s good or bad, i want to have some money left at the end of the month instead of having month left at the end of your money.

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      There used to be punishments for bakers adulterating flour to make profits; medieval communities were so reliant on the bread that the Lords went out of their way to regulate bakeries and ensure high wages for bakers to prevent that from happening (i.e: Adding chalk).

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    I used to make a lot of bread and things like pizza dough. I’ve even grown and ground my own wheat and other grains.

    And then my partner developed and/or decided they have a gluten sensitivity. Yes I’ve tried making gluten-free whatever but it’s not the same. I want my gluteny-goodness.

    I will harbor this resentment forever.

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      I know it’s not the same, but if you don’t have the sensitivity, then obviously you don’t have to eat the same food.

      And yes, I agree, most gluten free replacements are kinda bad. Nowhere near as bad as they were 20 years ago, though. Took me months, but I actually did find a gluten free pasta that’s honestly edible and doesn’t ruin the dish with some weird texture or taste I don’t like.

      I only tell you this because I too used to think gluten-free is a fad and people are just “imagining” benefits from going gluten-free free.

      I’ve had a stomach pain my entire life. No doctor ever suggested going gluten free and I even had a biopsy taken at 18 to see whether it’s celiacs. Either it was a false negative or I have what is known as NCGS, Non-celiac gluten sensitivity.

      And it’s genuinely not a joke.

      https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10593161/

      Non-celiac gluten sensitivity (NCGS) has been shown to occur in individuals without serological or biopsied evidence of celiac disease (CD), who manifest psychotic ormood disorders that resolve following elimination of gluten. In this case history, we discuss a similar manifestation in a 31-year-old woman without serological evidence of CD, whose psychiatric symptoms improve with gluten elimination.

      A 31-year-old Caucasian woman with a history of severe gluten sensitivity, Hashimoto’s disease, mosaic turner’s syndrome, and presumed schizo-affective disorder, bipolar type with multiple inpatient psychiatric involuntary admissions presented to the ED on petition for aggressive behavior by law enforcement. The patient had a week-long break-down at her parents’ home, where she also resides. She reportedly broke several objects and threatened to slit her mother’s throat. On the physical exam, she was malodorous, disheveled, and had long extremely matted hair. Psychiatric evaluation was notable for rambling speech, dysphoric mood, agitation, and irritability. Thought content was disorganized and consisted of grandiose and paranoid persecutory delusions. She was emergently given Haldol for worsening agitation, as she became physically threatening.

      And all that goes a way by not ingesting gluten. So you know, which would you rather, a crazy gf and donuts or a friendly gf with some gluten tree donuts which are like sort of okay?

      I’m not saying your gf has NCGS but just saying I understand the resentment (id sell my own mother for some proper gluteny carbonara) but going gluten and dairy free (casein, the milk protein, often also caused symptoms with NCGS patients, might want to maybe let your gf know if she’s improved with gluten free but still experiencing some GI symptoms) may have improved her well being so much that I think you should at least try to get over the resentment.

      You can always go eat out alone. But if she’s maintaining a strict diet, she prolly shouldn’t go to a single fast food burger place. Some of them offer gluten free buns but they don’t guarantee the meal to be glutenfree as its made in the same kitchen. Also, worth asking if they’re have a separate deep frier for gluten free things if getting fries.

      Sorry for the rant. I truly understand the resentment and the hankering for cheesy gluteny goodness, trust me. But I also know how massively the diet can improve life quality (Google “gluten belly” for instance for some insta girls showing the difference). And I know how frustrating it can feel when other people see it as something that’s not "really necessary", instead treating it somewhat like someone not liking pickles in their cheeseburger. (I’m sure you don’t treat her like that, I’m talking about people I know.)

  • sbv@sh.itjust.works
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    This is incorrect.

    Butter, jam, marmalade, honey, relish, mayonnaise, and mustard are what make life worth living.

    Bread is like air: a medium that is difficult to enjoy on its own, but necessary so that we can have the truly good things.

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      Found the heretic

      Give me a loaf of bread, and I will eat it and be happy. End of story.

      Condiments are nice conditionally, but bread is always fantastic

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      4 days ago

      That’s crazy. Bread is incredible. I’ll happy sit and tear pieces off and eat them like an animal. I also like condiments, but plain bread is fantastic if it’s good bread.

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      From someone who eats almost no bread anymore:

      It’s the bread.

      You’re not going to sit and eat a spoonful of jelly like a fucking goblin, but you might eat a piece of plain bread and be happy about it. Especially if it’s a perfectly cooked dinner roll.

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        You’re not going to sit and eat a spoonful of jelly like a fucking goblin

        Yes I fucking will. I mean it. I do. It’s delicious.

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    I like how in the menu the chef is like – and I’m paraphrasing of course – you assholes can’t have bread cuz you don’t deserve it.

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    4 days ago

    Bread made feeding people cheap. That isn’t civilization; that’s dominator culture. It’s slavery with extra steps. You’ve all been eating peasant food. Break the cycle.

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      Bread made feeding people cheap.

      Bread is a luxury, if feeding people cheap was the only concern, porridge would be a better use of grains than bread. Porridge predominated when peasant culture predominated; bread becomes common with civilization’s connections, innovations, and specialization.

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        I’m talking of modern day peasants, you know, the 99%. If it’s a “luxury”, then why pray tell is it served everywhere and dominates the ingredient list of most processed food? A loaf of bread is cheap, but meats, fruits, vegetables are through the roof.

        It was a nice stop gap as things progressed, but now it’s a handicap.