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Prosecutors highlighted “about $10,000 — $8,000 in U.S. dollars and then $2,000 in foreign currency that was found on his person,” CNN correspondent Danny Freeman said following the court hearing.
“Also they said that he had a Faraday bag,” which blocks cell signals, a move that prosecutors alleged marked “an indication of criminal sophistication and reason they should hold him on bail,” Freeman continued.
After prosecutors made the claims, Mangione said he would like to “correct two things.”
“I don’t know where any of that money came from — I’m not sure if it was planted. And also, that bag was waterproof, so I don’t know about criminal sophistication,” the suspect said in a statement that suggested police framed him.
Authorities are desperately trying to make an example of someone, anyone with a motive. Turns out more than half the country has one.
the way they portray him and the tone of the whole thing is just so fucking slimy
“Do you realize how much money the wealthy are losing right now?”
“OMG how could a person born into wealth that is clearly incredibly intelligent, ever think about doing something like this? There are better ways to slowly let millions of people die over denied coverage and ignore it. How could he.”
“Do you realize how much the wealthy are losing right now?”
Clearly, not nearly enough.
They can call us inhumane but they’re the ones who got us thinking of human lives in dollar values
They can’t have us realize its that easy to take our country back from the corporations that own it or their entire power structure and caste society comes crashing down.
Turns out more than half the country has one.
Turns out your new president kinda wants to put that half in shackles, too.
Everyone should change their names on all their social medias to Luigi Mangione
Everyone should walk around with Luigi Mangione face masks.
They’ll find 12 of the whitest old women to ever exist and hammer this guy, I can just feel it. The justice system exists for the rich and whoever did this fucked with one of their own.
My Nostradamus prediction of the day is that you are right. They will all miraculously had a great time with the private healthcare syndicates.
“Also they said that he had a Faraday bag,” which blocks cell signals, a move that prosecutors alleged marked “an indication of criminal sophistication and reason they should hold him on bail,” Freeman continued.
Prosecutors, man. Acting like he had a fucking radio jammer or something.
Looks like they are trying hard to rebrand the guy image by publishing pictures where he looks off. How i’m supposed to believe the government has no plan against the people when they pull stunt like this?
Mugshots rarely look good because they want a centered and level profile of your face with a neutral expression in order to capture as much detail as possible. It also might have been a minute since he’s seen a shower or a razor. I wouldn’t call that a conspiracy, there are much more important details at play here than his looks.
they released multiple mugshots, pictures of him in jail and now there are even videos. That’s not normal at all.
Mugshots are also designed to make people look bad because it used to be a way that criminals would use for self promotion. But if they look bad then it has the opposite effect making them seem more animalistic and thus more evil. Also often used in wanted posters if enough photos are available. This has been the case for long before photography was invented with drawings as well.
Otherwise, they’d look more like photo IDs, which have the same requirements and are bad compared to something framed specifically to flatter someone, but not as bad as mugshots. Doesn’t help that most mugshots are taken after long, abusive “interrogation” sessions or other situations that exhaust them rather than immediately upon arrest, but that’s on purpose.
But the tactic to use mugshots as self promotional got popular when photos first came around because if they could get in a good shot, it’s not like the police could afford to take multiple. Film was expensive. And they were put in newspapers and such, so they spread around for free. Just look at the famous criminals of the Wild West era. So police doubled down on making sure the photos looked as bad as possible and it became a popular tactic to use against “famous” criminals. Now it’s used against basically all criminals.
Mugshots are also designed to make people look bad because it used to be a way that criminals would use for self promotion.
Versus now where only presidents use them for self promotion.
From the article:
Although a host of eyewitness accounts and video camera footage recorded Mangione’s movements before and after Thompson was killed in New York City on Wednesday, police said they were unable to locate him until a McDonald’s employee identified the suspect at a Pennsylvania franchise nearly a week later.
They should have said “the suspect’s movements” or “the shooter’s movements”. Not “Mangione’s movements”. They are already presuming guilt by saying it was Mangione who was recorded. Newspapers used to be careful about doing this. I think they can be sued for defamation for this, can’t they?
Fuck Chomsky.
They said with no support…
Are you the CEO of a news corporation, bud?
He took Russia’s side in their invasion of Ukraine, which I don’t agree with, but truth is truth and he accurately describes how the media sways public opinion without outright lying.
Sure, but I think you’d understand that I can’t just take pure speculation though. Could you please source your claim so I can consider what you’re saying when you say he “took Russia’s side”.
Would also be curious of the state he was in while saying that if true, as he’s nearly 100 years old at this point if I recall? Even our heroes get frail and wither, not necessarily representative of their true core positions.
I mean, if they want to go and taint every potential juror in the country they can go for it.
It seems kinda grey because they’re not saying he committed a crime they are saying that he was in certain camera frames and the police were looking for him. If the police announced a name then the news would be reporting fact. The camera bit could be debatable I think. If they were speaking more about the actions of the crime they’d have to alledge, which they did alledge about his “type” of bookbag.
I could be wrong I just found your comment interesting.
Yeah but by stating as a fact that it was Mangione who was witnessed and recorded they are stating as a fact that he is the killer, which we don’t know yet. That is-- or used to be – a big no no in reporting. But times have changed. Here is a link I found explaining how they are probably opening themselves up to a libel charge with this kind of language.
Was it an employee or a bystander/customer? I’m confused.
All the accounts I’ve read say it was an employee of the McDonald’s who called police. But who knows? Probably one source printed that and then all the others just copied it.
I’m not convinced either way whether or not he’s the culprit, but I certainly don’t trust the authorities to give him a fair trial.
It seriously would be dismissed as a movie plot due to being too unrealistic…
One thing that lends credence to him being the culprit is that he’s from a well-to-do family, with a Republican state congressman cousin, no less. I would think they would prefer a poor to be their patsy.
Luigi needs to shut the everloving fark up and let his lawyer do the talking for him. The cops are trolling him with fake evidence and he’s falling for it.
“The gun WASN’T a 32 caliber, it was a 22 rimfire!” etc, etc.
This is the correct answer. If you are arrested by police for ANY REASON, the only word in your vocabulary is now “lawyer”. Remember kids, anything you say or do will be used against you.
“I invoke my right to remain silent and have a lawyer.”
It sucks, but sometimes you have to explicitly state you are exercising your rights. Just staying silent doesn’t mean they won’t stop pestering you with questions. Make it clear and concise that that you are demanding your lawyer be present and any further questioning done should be in violation of that right. But you have to make it clear you are invoking it.
Not sometimes, but ALWAYS state that you are invoking your right to remain silent.
Doesn’t matter if it’s one of the states that presumes you are invoking your right, because you might be the court case that decides otherwise this time.
Glad to see this here. In many jurisdictions, if the law doesn’t say it previous rulings do: you must invoke the rights to silence and to counsel.
It sucks but plenty of judges want to give the police every chance they can get, like those dickheads who OK’d forcing people to unlock their phones because “you already gave police your fingerprint”.
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Our incoming president is a convicted felon and RAPIST who incited an insurrection and illegally attempted to overturn an election.
The rule of law doesn’t mean shit anymore.
I could give 2 fucks if this guy lies through his teeth to get off the hook. Go for it bro.
My ez-pass transponder came with a faraday bag - clearly ez-pass is a criminal organization
A former employer handed out branded faraday phone and wallet bags as a tchotchke- I must have worked for organized crime.
Oh no, passport faraday bags are all over Amazon - clearly criminal and needs to be shut down
The us federal government gave me a faraday pouch to put my id card in.
clearly criminals
He had Ill will against corporate America, nobody would have that unless they were the killer! Sick evidence coppers!
Step 1 - Have an AI scrape social media looking for someone similar looking who has posted negative things about the insurance Industry.
Step 2 - sprinkle crack on them
Step 3 - ???
Step 4 - record breaking profits for health insurance corporations every year forever and ever and ever
People who know this shit have been through Mangione’s social media feeds.
https://shatterzone.substack.com/p/alleged-ceo-shooter-luigi-mangione
The guy likely did it. The guy’s social media history puts him right in that “potential mass shooter” territory, but one more radicalized by pain rather than the right-wing shitholes of the internet.
But the part no one’s talking about yet are the copycats to come. Because this guy got attention for it. Accolades even. That’s part of what mass shooters want. Attention. Accolades are a wet dream for them.
At least this will be better than when they were murdering children for the shock value.
So yeah, I think “Rich asshole murdered” will become more common. If only the richest asshole in whatever Podunk little town the mass shooter was from.
And yet, I can’t say that it will be a completely bad thing. If the mass shootings must happen, (and America apparently says they must) then I’d rather it be a rich asshole who bites it than a classroom full of grade schoolers.
I’ve got a Faraday bag and foreign currency as well lol
You criminal fuck, get out of here.
That’s sophisticated criminal fuck, my good sir, sophisticated!
I live in Canada. I have a couple of US $ bills lying around. Does that make me a criminal?
YES! You make me sick.
And I’ll pay out the nose to be healed but not trust the cure thank you! That’s my right!Have you not listened to Canadian politicians, watched what they do? Literally everyone that is not one of them is a criminal, and they make sure of it. You can’t go a day without breaking 7 or 10 laws, you just hope not to gather attention. They let firearms license renewals submitted in the proper timeframe take 8 months to renew (not issue) so for 6 months a man can sit with a house with several “illegal” firearms hoping the RCMP aren’t bored enough to spin by. They came up with this crooked scam to “relieve” of us the GST for two months starting tomorrow, but because of the politicking and the canada post strike, no one knows what is and isn’t now exempt, normally people with a GST number get a letter in the mail clearly describing the deal. No, you can’t just go by the federal websites. They’re all bullshit and lies, you need to go by CRA letters you have in your hand, and you need those for proof later. I’m in a good situation, as my business, i simply set my prices accounting for GST, and add up everything GST applies to that I sold the end of the month, do the math on that number, send the feds a check, so I don’t have to fuck with any of my prices, just say that I’ve decided to increase my prices by 5 percent for the period, I can do that if I want. Nobody wants to see a bar suddenly make everything that was even numbers become 5.45 for a beer, 5.52 for a rye. This is probably criminal too, increasing my prices 5 percent to save an accounting headache. What sort of absolute fucking idiot does something like this on that short notice to buy goodwill? Everyone knows Trudeau is done no matter what, this narcissistic death spiral is pathetic. Just like everything the last 6 years, he does not care one bit what it does to anyone. I’m sorry, this ain’t really a reply to you, more a frustration rant i feel people need to see.
If the police did this, that’s not surprising, but they are really stupid.
This case is going to be under a microscope like an inverted OJ trial, and every bit of police misconduct is ammunition for his lawyers
Imagine the uproar if this guy gets away on a technicality… it would be a national celebration, lol.
Imagine the uproar if this guy gets away on a technicality
Stop it, don’t get my hopes up! 🤞
- Likely wearing similar clothes to the widely circulated photographs. Otherwise how did anyone recognize him?
- Still had his ghost gun and manifesto on him.
- Cops asked him for an ID and he gave them the same fake New Jersey ID that had been widely reported as what he used to check into a hostel in NYC.
Where these just common mistakes? Made by the same person who succeeded at avoiding so many others? But if he was trying to turn himself in, getting arrested at McDonalds doesn’t seem like the method I would have chosen. Was he trying for suicide by police?
I’m leaning on the side of a normal human ‘on the run’ and making normal mistakes. But there is enough to make me doubt that.
Also if they ever make a movie out of this, James Franco’s brother Dave Franco has a passing resemblance.
If he did do it, he is going to be really popular in prison, but I imagine teased to. You realize that your not supposed to keep the ghost gun right?
What if you find shooter’s backpack ditched in park with jacket, gun, silencer, and fake ID used at hostel, but say it only had a jacket and monopoly money. And say that the guy probably left the state on a bus. Now you can pretty much do anything you want with any plausible-looking guy in the country you want.
I’m just asking questions! Also, most of the bags and purses you see for sale these days have a “faraday” phone bag or pocket in them, no level of sophistication required.
