I mean, that’s a good looking sandwich
You and I have very different ideas of what a good sandwich looks like. I’d still vote for it though.
maybe that’s mortadella that’s cut way too thick? I dunno. I’m with you. It looks more like turkey than ham to me. Not my sammich.
Don’t worry, voters will definitely hand both houses to the Republicans in 2026 if she’s elected and they’ll take their orders directly from Trump.
Because that’s what always happens.
I just hope Trump is dead by 2026.
There could always be some other MAGA asshole to fill the void, but the dissolution of Trump’s cult of personality would be a crippling blow.
There’s always an asshole. Newt Gingrich, Mitch McConnell, Donald Trump. And our electoral system and goldfish-memory population will continually put them into power.
Newt, Mitch and the others only have their local GOP cult, they don’t have the national cult that the orange turd does.
Okay, Rush, Hannity, and Alex Jones & The Turds.
There will always be an asshole. That’s the entire reason we even have government in the first place.
Don’t blame “the population”, if everybody had exactly the same starting conditions, they’d end up the same. I’m autistic and generally - from experience with people - think that every popular thing is crap and every popular idea is crap, and the more hated something is, the more wisdom may be in it.
But. The population generally has the same kind of memory as you. There are a lot of traps and distractions, they fall for some, you fall for some others. There’s no need to blame the victim.
That’s not what happened in 2022, at least not quite. Don’t underestimate Trump’s ability to insert himself and mess up whatever easy wins the GOP would otherwise have.
she could be a great president if she issues an arms embargo against Israel
So you’re saying you’re still voting for her because you’re not a literal Nazi, right? Right?
Ham sandwich. It’s right there
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Well she doesnt not do Nazi type things…
are you actually stupid 😭
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She will most likely not be a great president, but could be a good one. If Biden wasn’t so poor on the Middle East, he would have been a great one, from a policy perspective.
Biden never was going to be a great president, lacking a a majority in both houses means you burn up too much political capital to get anything done that doesn’t already have broad bipartisan support. And with how divided politics is today compared to any point in history where we had a great president, there is no such thing as bipartisan today.
And supported labor better.
I’m fine with how Afghanistan went. The military would have dragged it out for another 10 years. I’d much rather have a suboptimal quick withdrawal.
Nobody’s arguing it was short-term better for the US. It abandoned to the wolves all of the people who worked with it in Afghanistan, though. And did that abruptly. Betrayals tend to have long-term consequences. Those who think they’ve seen a few betrayals go well without those, just have blind spots.
Yeah, actually. I agree that Biden handled the Afghanistan situation as well as anyone could. I guess I’d forgotten that with all of the things happening now.
Were there a normal option available to vote for, she’d be worse. But she’s better than Trump because Trump is just an acceleration of the ongoing trash show, while she is said show going on as planned - she’s the candidate from the folks who planned it, as in “establishment” and “big financial interest”.
Maybe she’s just waiting for the election to be over before she disbands AIPAC and cuts ties with natenyahu?
“Objectively” is such a fun way to describe what will always be a divisive position of power. Was any one president considered objectively good?
George S. Washington
george samuel washington was so good
Grant’s administration was deeply imperfect - corruption ran deep - but he eradicated the first KKK. I feel like that’s an objective good, and anyone who disagrees isn’t worth listening to.
FDR because one can be wrong about objective things
A ham sandwich can be eaten. Eating is good. That’s 1 pt ham sandwich, 0 gop. Ham sandwich does more for Americans than gop.
Maybe a club, or a ruben. I don’t know about just plain ham.
What if it came with Dijon mustard?
Lately the American dream has been reduced to someone passing you a jar of grey poupon out of the back seat of their car so I like where you are going with this.
…… go on
By a waiter with a tan suit.
well we already the “Worst President” < that dump inept man!!! so anything is better! Kamala will be AWESOME!
drumpf!!!
Do people really put the veggies underneath the cheese and the meat? Have I been sandwiching wrong my whole life?
Same with a burger. Your lettuce should be dry (pat it with a paper towel if you must) and put it as the bottom layer. This creates a moisture barrier that stops your bread/bun from turning into a soggy mess.
On a sandwich, the cheese should be on the other side for the same reason. Keep all the wet stuff from turning your bread into slop.
As someone who genuinely doesn’t understand American politics too much, wouldn’t Trump be better for the Middle East? I live in Lebanon right now and most people that I talk to say that Trump would be far better than anyone else for the Middle East, considering what he did in his first term. They’ll also back this up with “he’s a business man, and war is bad for business”, but I don’t entirely buy that considering how profitable war is for the US. Could someone put my in the loop?
Trump is a Zionist so he’d probably start backing Israel with more weapons and escalating the current situation with Iran.
I too hate Hezballah, as most do, but issue is that I also live in the same country where they live. I used to feel bad for Americans that had to do active shooter drills. My school just did a “we’re being bombed” drill.
It would be a very quick debate too. Assuming she’s not vegan like me. But hey if it was me against a vegetarian Vietnamese sandwich 🥪, bring it on bitch! You going down!
I don’t think Mama Cass would vote for a ham sandwich.
And that’s cool…
As long as when people want her to align more closely with the Dem voting base, you don’t yell at them for questioning the only option and imply they’re trying to help trump.
That bullshit only depresses Dem turnout and actually helps trump.
It’s just completely nonsensical to hear all the “moderates” claim they’d vote for anyone not trump, then go feral when someone points out banning fracking would hand the Dems Pennsylvania which trump needs to win the election.
There are multiple issues like that where if Kamala moved to the left she’d lock this election down.
If you truly only care about beating trump, your time online would be more productive trying to pull the party left than trying to pull tens of millions of voters to the right…
With the obvious benefit of getting those popular policies on top of beating trump.
Thank you for being honest and not trying to pretend you care about Palestinians.
Is there a candidate that would help protect the Palestinians? Like a legitimate one that has even a remote possibility of winning? Nah? OK I’ll vote for the other things I care about then since that one is out of reach.
I think Kamala will be an objectively great president
That means, not just in comparison to Trump, but actually good in general. The moment you say or endorse that statement, talking about Trump or whether there’s a viable alternative is 100% whataboutism.
I respect you less than OP because you’re now pretending like you care about Palestinians, and it’s just because there’s no alternative that you support Harris. I prefer it when y’all take the mask off, because it’s pointless to argue against something the other side is only pretending to believe or value.
Did you have a seizure or something?
No, why do you ask?
Because your comment is so disconnected from reality that it’s the only thing that makes sense to me. Genuinely concerned for you.
In what way is anything I said disconnected from reality? What are you confused about?
The fact that you’re asking just leaves me more concerned for you.
The absolute liberal irony in this is fucking hilarious.
You people are just genuinely lost in hyperreality, aren’t you?
p.s. try sneering harder, you’re totally winning over the working class.
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Nah, I’m voting Trump. Especially since Dick Chaney came out in support of her. If the war pigs support her, I’m voting against her, 100%
I am braindead
Ok got it
I see you have trouble reading, I’m sorry about that, I wish you luck with that
If it weren’t for the fact that so many others would get hurt as a result, I’d wish you luck with your choice and hope that you get what you ask for.
You absolutely deserve Trump.
Thank you, I’m excited for a great economy and being able to get my savings built up again. :)
Gotta say. It’s pretty refreshing to see someone from .ml being so openly MAGA. If only the rest of the “leftists” trumpers there were so honest about their intentions.
What does .ml have to do with it? It was one of the available instances when I switched over from reddit.
I do wish more people were open about voting Trump, but there was a long period where it literally could cost you your job, so I can see why there’s still some hesitancy. I think that’s going away though.
I don’t believe you for a second. But as long as you continue to believe that people are dumb enough to… that’s all that really matters right?
And who knew people don’t like hiring fascists, right?
No one but the actual brain dead think people voting for trump are fascist.
And even though the Nazi party was a blowback reaction to socialism, does not mean every blowback against socialism is fascistic. If we’re not careful, there could be for sure, but trump voters are not fascists, and trump himself is not fascist.
I’m not a fan of socialism, bud. So I’m not sure where you’re going with that, but you do whatever you need to do to justify voting for a fascist.
Trump is just as much of a warmongerer as anyone. He nearly started WWIII with Iran by assassinating Soleimani. Dick Cheney just doesn’t like him because of personal reasons.
The only isolationists/doves are third party candidates, as has been the case for well over 20 years.
No he didn’t. We’re far closer to WWlll now than we ever were under Trump. Ukraine/Russia, Israel/Palestine, China is creeping up to attack Taiwan… And now Russia and China are tighter than ever, which is not good for the west.
Dick Chaney doesn’t like him because Dick Chaney makes all his money on War. He was literally one of the masterminds behind our war with Iraq.
Now, Mark Cuban… He doesn’t like Trump for personal reasons, lol.
Trump escalated tensions with both China and Russia, while giving total support to Israel. He bombed Syria, tore up the Iran deal, and attempted coups in Bolivia and Venezuela, while expanding sanctions on Cuba. Biden has merely continued his policies. There is broad bipartisan consensus on military spending and escalation of conflicts, and Trump has no real interest in going against that.
Trump talks out of both sides of his mouth to allow everyone to project whatever they want onto him, whether they’re isolationist or the most bloodthirsty of nationalists, and liberals paint everyone who disagrees with their interventionist positions with the same brush, which helps him do it. I wrote a post dissecting his language here. If you actually look at his record and his actions, he’s happy enough to go along with what the military-industrial complex wants. Here is a video that goes into more details about specifics.
Dick Cheney is obviously a horrible monster who deserves the worst, and it reflects very poorly on Harris to accept his endorsement, but just because she sucks doesn’t mean Trump doesn’t.
He was firm with Russia and China, but neither of them moved to attack. I don’t care how mad the two are, as long as it keeps war from breaking out.
I do agree that there’s a bipartisan consensus on military spending, but I think it’s between the Rinos and the DNC. Not that I think Trump will significantly defund our military, but I do think, with those he’s built up around him this time, he’ll be less likely to get into these proxy war situations, end the ones we’re in now, and hopefully we won’t see anymore US-backed coups.
The issue is, all of that will 100% keep happening under Harris. There’s a reason Dick Chaney didn’t endorse Trump, and it’s because he knows he’s not going to get as much sweet war money from the trump administration being in charge. He knows he’ll get that with Kamala.
All of that will 100% keep happening under Trump as well. There is nothing whatsoever that would indicate otherwise. You’re just going off of vibes.
I don’t care how mad the two are, as long as it keeps war from breaking out.
That’s self-contradictory. Worsening relations make conflict more likely. Trump is the one that set us on this trajectory in the first place. The idea of China or Russia being our enemies was laughable before him.
The reality is that neither part of the establishment actually wants war with Russia or China. They’re sitting comfortable at the top and have no reason to throw the world into chaos and jeopardize their comfortable positions. What they want is to rally people up into supporting the possibility of war in order to justify military spending, which they profit from. The risk of war comes from two things: first, someone overplays their hand, and second, that the people who are being rallied up to support war actually find themselves in position to follow through. Part of the reason that some people on the right, such as Tucker Carlson, oppose involvement in the war in Ukraine is because they actually want a full-scale war with China and want to close the other front to make way for it.
I don’t see how you can look at all the coups and bombings and rising tensions and unconditional support for Israel under Trump before and seriously think that he won’t do more coups and such if elected again. It’s just cope.
lemmy.ml moment
