- cross-posted to:
- politics@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- politics@lemmy.world
Summary
Trump admitted it will be difficult to lower consumer prices, despite campaign promises to reduce grocery, energy, and overall inflation costs.
Trump told Time that achieving price reductions is rare without major economic downturns.
During the campaign, Trump blamed rising costs on Democratic leadership and proposed tariffs as a solution, but economists warn tariffs could raise prices further.
Inflation, a key voter concern, played a significant role in Trump’s election victory, though he has yet to outline a clear plan to deliver on his economic pledges.
I’ve repeated this before, but here’s the truth:
They did not vote for him for the “economy”. Or for “America First”. Or for “Farmers”, “unions”, etc.
They voted for him for racism and bigotry against the LGBTQ+ community. That’s the only campaign promise they’re 100% sure he’s going to follow through on. Attacking immigrants and making their life a living hell.
Any other reason they gave is a dog whistle for their support of his absolutely transparent bigotry on display every moment his mouth is open.
We need to stop assuming his voters actually care about the same things we do, or even the things they publicly say. They care about him upholding their racist and bigoted views.
That’s it.
For some, I would agree. But I’d also say that’s an insane over generalisation and these kind of comments are the same shit. People with no serious education on a topic, spewing ‘stats’ and making sweeping statements.
I mean I heard someone say yesterday that gas was under a dollar when Trump was President and he was going to bring the price back down to that. Had no concept of why gas prices plummeted for a second there.
People forget how prices have gone. And you can show anything you want with gas because it is manipulated. Gas prices right now are lower than what they were in 2008. And inflation has risen by 46.5% from 2008-2024.
Gas price listings for people curious:
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/leafhandler.ashx?f=m&n=pet&s=emm_epm0_pte_nus_dpg
So before Obama became president gas was on the rise, went to 3.30 when he got sworn in and stopped inflating at ~4.12 that July. When he left office in February 2017, at $2.44 a gallon.
So inflation from 2009 to 2017 should have been 14.3%. And gas went down about 26% under Obama.
Now either that means Republicans love Obama, or gas prices didn’t matter to them as much as they say
I get what you’re going for, but there are plenty of people that did vote for him for the economy and the like. There are plenty I’m sure that voted because of anti-lgbt issues without a doubt. But casting this blanket statement of “they all” like every single trump voter went to the polls and said “Gee I’d love healthcare, but those gays are a real problem” is dangerous rhetoric. This “us vs them” mentality is what makes things so difficult and divisive in the first place.
You’re not going to win people over to your point of view if you lump every single person who doesn’t already agree with you under the “racist bigot” umbrella.
Is there hate in their ranks? Sure. Do I think everyone who put trump on their vote card hates LGBT people and anyone not matching their race? No.
I get being upset but they won the election. And if we sit here going “We don’t want you anyway bigot!” They’re gonna win again. It’s just not a healthy mentality to have in a dialogue.
Edit: also not really what the article was about. People did vote for him cause he said he’d lower prices and fix the economy, and he is failing to do that. This is an opportunity to point out his lies and welcome people to a different viewpoint, not slam the door in their face.
I know urban people who voted for Trump. They don’t care about white supremacy, Palestine, or even Trump himself. They want lower grocery bills, lower interest on their credit cards, no taxes on overtime, and not be forced to pay child support. These are actual answers I got from work.
Simplistic representation of a complex situation leading to a simple “solution” that doesn’t actually fix anything but perpetuates or intensifies current issues? Now you too know what it’s like to be a United States Republican!
Have you seen the absolute ruins of our public education system, defunded over and over to cut sociopath’s taxes for half a century?
This isnt just “these people are awful” these people were made by unchained capitalists.
They act like tribal animals fearing and hating the other because educating someone is the same as civilizing someone.
We don’t do that here for most. Our public ed has become little more than laborer daycare.
We can barely even manage it being laborer daycare, since our defunded public schools can’t pay shit, choosing to become a teacher in public ed is choosing a life of scraping by and trying to educate classrooms of 30+ children by yourself, of being punished for trying to help society for a living.
Meanwhile, those with enough time not working to complain on behalf of their children are given charter escape hatches that the owners profit off of despite claiming charters are “non-profit” through for profit, publicly traded charter management corporations, and even charters tend to have a conservative “helping society bad” bias in their curriculum. You should hear some of the shit my local “Challenger schools” advertises, students being interviewed saying they learned they should seek friends who can help themselves today. Yikes.
Then the owner’s children are educated, at private schools, where they are taught that owners don’t empathize or concern themselves with the plight of the livestock.
Never wonder why the citizens of prosocial nation’s impression of average Americans is that we are complete ignoramuses. It’s not an accident. It’s intended. A bone dead stupid laborer is a compliant, easily manipulated laborer.
I think this is right for many of his supporters, but never attribute to malice what can be explained by pure idiocy
Here’s the thing though, no it’s not hard to reduce the price of all of that, you just need to nationalize the industry for essential products. No more investors to please, no need to make billions in profit, prices can be reduced.
Or start assassinating the ceos of Ralph’s and Albertsons on the side walk and see if that helps, just a suggestion
You said it’s not hard, but that’s gonna be really hard.
Quebec did it with electricity, passed a law to purchase all stocks at a set price on a specific date, got a loan from the USA, 3 years later it had been refunded using the profit it realized by nationalizing the industry… It was a 50 years loan if I’m not mistaken.
Oh man. I wish I could see the faces being eaten.
They’re all currently in denial and even when prices increase further due to the tariffs they’ll just blame it on the previous administration.
Trust me, I’ve been trying to explain this to these people for a long time. Had a talk with one of them where I told them about this interview and their exact response was to blame Biden.
Yeah, you’re absolutely right. They never accept responsibility for their choices, they just blame others when they fail and try to claim other’s successes as their own.
But surely a few realize their fuckup before they manufacture fault and rage to aim at others.
Inflation soared above 9% in 2022 as a result of supply chain problems related to the coronavirus pandemic and strong consumer demand that had been buttressed by stimulus checks and other relief policies both Trump and President Joe Biden championed.
Jesus Christ we’re still blaming stimulus checks for inflation. Most people couldn’t pay more than a months rent at most with the stimulus they received and yet we’re supposed to believe that was a huge factor driving prices up? Saying stupid shit like this is exactly as bad as Trump’s ridiculous tariff proposals but because it’s not a Republican saying it we’re just supposed to accept it as gospel. Eat my ass HuffPo
I’m going to guess the small business loans didn’t help either
Canada gave way more, inflation is under 2% now
More people spending money can cause inflation if you have the same amount of goods.
How many months of rent is irrelevant because that’s not disposable income. If the stimulus didn’t meaningfully increase your disposable income dieting the pandemic you’re too rich to discuss it
Oh my gosh! Oh my! Trustworthy Trump?! He lied… For political gain?
I’m sure the people who voted for him would be very upset right now if they could read.
No kidding, he just lied his ass off like he always does and the dickless MAGAT drones just slurped that jizz right up without ever stopping to think about how insanely fucking stupid the promis was to begin with…
Given how us dickless folks voted maybe that’s not the insult to use for those brainless jackasses
I am Jack’s complete lack of surprise.
To the surprise of literally no one with more than three brain cells
It thinks it’s time we do our own Vandalism campaign similar to their stupid Biden I did that stickers. It clearly worked despite it being braindead.
A lot of people yelling that he’s not backtracking, that he’s just saying it’s hard. Did we not pay attention in 2016? “It’s easy, we’ll fix it in a day, I’ll do it faster than any other president”. Then it didn’t happen. Then it was hard, then it was in the works, then it was a concept, then it never came. We’re just going to have tons of repeats of the same old crap. I’m just waiting for the “who thought ending a war was difficult” quote to drop for Ukraine. (If it doesn’t just get handed over on a silver platter on day one)
Trump: hey! I got an idea that could lower those prices and fix our borders…we will bring enough migrants in to be able to plant, care for and harvest our food crops which are not easily automated! In return the migrants may eventually become residents or citizens. We’ll have the best migrants only by asking them questions before bringing them in such as…do you work hard or are you hardly working and happy to see me? It will be the best question ever asked of any one. And to the bad Compadres, we will tell them “you’re fired” ha ha ha! It will be the best. Best carrots and apples and oranges we have ever tasted…we will also have water desalination plants to water all the crops. And we will donate our surplus to countries like Ukraine who may need support for a while.
Just play along… If that fuck does even 1% of this we should be so Lucky.
Does this mean he’s backing down on tariffs? Jesus, one of the only things he actually campaigned on…
Haha just wait until he tanks the economy and all these prices stay high.
Oooooh… what… a surprise. Well. Too late now…
I wonder what people will do about that.
Nothing? Or cheer?