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    Now if Democrats were politically savvy, which they aren’t, and could actually understand the average American, they’d be hammering this point about Republicans not bringing down prices until the next century.

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      The problem is that Dems are beholden to the truth. They probably couldn’t *bring down grocery prices either because it doesn’t work like that, so they can’t hold the other party to it either.

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      Further propagating the misinformation that the President has any reasonably effective way to lower grocery prices? Nixon’s grocery price fixing was an unmitigated disaster. An Executive Order is the only tool in the President’s toolbox for controlling grocery prices without congressional legislation. Biden couldn’t lower prices in 2020, just as Trump can’t lower them in 2024.

      POTUS is responsible for many important things. The price of a bottle of Coke is not one of them.

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        Presidents and administrations might not be able to dictate specific prices, but they can and do enact laws and regulations that influence or even define the economy. Trump’s proposed tariffs are expected –not just by economists, but by markets, as seen after the election– to raise prices and, if they are enacted and result in the predicted outcome, fingers should be pointed at his Orangeness.

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          The President does not create laws, Congress does. The President can repeal laws, which doesn’t help in this context.

          Tariffs are not laws. They are an additional tax, and you’re correct in stating that they certainly won’t lower prices.

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            The tariff establishes the market floor. Trump can enact tariffs without congress. It will be setting the economy on several market vectors.

            If you don’t know how it works, don’t post troll content. #NotFeedingFurther #BrandolinisLaw

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              No additional tariff is capable of lowering a product’s price. It’s simply a way to give domestic production a competitive advantage without them lowering their prices.

              My point is about the President’s limitations on fixing or lowering grocery prices, not raising them.

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                  The Chicken Wars resulted in more expensive European imported chicken, not less expensive domestic chicken.

                  Not a single response in this thread has explained how a president can lower grocery store prices, and I’m the troll?

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        POTUS is responsible for many important things. The price of a bottle of Coke is not one of them.

        I kept asking all the ding-a-lings that were going on about the price of eggs and blaming Biden what exact mechanism Biden used to cause inflation, etc…

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          Please educate me. Explain how the President can quickly fix grocery prices without an Executive Order? I haven’t seen anything else that can be done solely by the President.

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            Man, you really don’t get it do you?

            1. I never insinuated that a President could affect grocery prices, I said Democrats should be savvy enough to realize they should hold his promises against him, which clearly you are not.

            2. Americans that on average read at a sixth grade level don’t give a flying fuck if the President can magically fix grocery prices or not, it’s what they want to believe and what they tell themselves so they can sleep through the hunger at night.

            I honestly don’t get how bad Democrats are at actually talking to people and connecting to regular people. You just hammer away that the guy in charge of the party in charge promised to fix your prices, you point out repeatedly that prices went up under their watch, regardless if it was their fault or not, and you outline how you will fix it, lie or not, in some folksy twang and not act like a giant pretentious douche talking down to the American public. Hell Democrats don’t even have to lie if they would actually listen to what progressives have been trying to tell you Democrats, “It’s the economy and the billionaire stupid”.

            I’d be watching those egg prices and blame Republicans for the rise in egg prices as soon as he takes his oath but you know Democrats won’t be doing that, they’re not smart enough and savvy enough to do it.

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      Stop blaming the voters and start blaming the democrats for being completely dogshit at selecting popular candidates and running an engaging campaign.

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        The democratic candidate was crap, so I voted for moronic Hitler. Making the country a terrible place for everyone oughta teach those dems to pick better candidates! /s

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          Keep on acting like that. I’m sure it will do wonders in attracting more voters and winning elections :-). Democrats lost to the couch, not to trump. People are apathetic to their milquetoast neoliberalism.

          Like look. You were up against moronic hitler and you lost. Thats says more about you than the voters.

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            Maybe you just need to come to terms with this is what the electorate wanted. I’m sure you can find something wrong with any candidate the Dems put on the ticket but the choices this last election were clear on differences and we saw how that turned out.

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        I say we blame both. People that abstained, voted 3rd party, voted for Trump out of spite, etc. deserve their share of the blame for allowing the absolute worst president in history to have a second term. The DNC is to blame for running a campaign and candidates so milquetoast that people felt the desire to protest vote. Both things are true.

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        Oof true but Lemmy doesn’t want to hear that. The “Beatings will continue until you vote for Wall Street’s Candidate” crowd hit Lemmy hard during the campaign and they convinced a lot of people that it was the voter’s fault if Democrats lost.

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    Even if he weren’t evil and a liar, it’s proven he’s an imbecile of the lowest order only a tier above his supporters.

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      Right. Dingus probably has zero idea of not only how inflation works, but how the price gouging was being done by elites and being blamed on “inflation”.

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    I guarantee that the only promises Trump is going to keep are the ones that will reduce consumer projections, increase profits for corporations, and make the rich richer.

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    So, he’s not even in office and already squirming out of his promise…

    Did not even wait for his throne to be able to uphold he tried something.

    Perhaps he’ll say he had a concept of a plan but it was bad.

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    Yeah, no kidding.

    Gonna have to get a soundboard app where I can load up that Samuel Jackson clip…anyone have good recommendations?

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    Serial liar admits to lying. gasp. No wait, let me try again…ahem…gasp. yeah no. Just can’t work up even a bit of fake shock.

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    You counteract inflation by making sure people’s wages also change to reflect the new value of the dollar. Which they haven’t.

    Prices don’t come down unless you enter a period of deflation. And if you thought inflation sucked, deflation sucks even more. Especially for a nation of people who hold a lot of debt. As the value of current grows, so does the value of your debt. If you have debt, your debt burden increases.

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    He didn’t so anything of the sort. Does no one read the articles?

    And the article reads like a Trump endorsement. Those quotes will sound great to your average American without context.

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    Oh look, the well-known con artist that you voted for in hopes that he would not con you has conned you! What a surprise!

    Now we’re all stuck with this scumbag. I hope you’re all happy.

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    but what will happen to that stupid old lady he keeps yapping about … will she buy just two apples instead of three?? someone think of the imaginary old lady !!