Alcohol is a depressant ?
Doesn’t “depressant” have more to do with your body’s functions and not necessarily the depression we think about? Been a long time since high school health and EMT classes.
Yes, but if you become an alcoholic you will be depressed and feel like a piece of shit regardless.
8.5 years sober, thank fucking god.
Probably because the high isnt permanent and the higher you go the farther you fall. Long falls hurt a helluva lot
They’re joking of course. Nobody wants this life.
I’ve seen plenty of people who think they could take hard, addictive drugs and not get addicted, or that the addiction would be a small price to pay for the highs of the drug. Plenty of people have far too much self confidence for their small understanding of the situation. It’s why drugs like heroin are still around; if everyone intrinsically understood that they’re not worth it, they’d have disappeared a long time ago.
I still don’t get how people still use Heroin. Like, its common fucking sense that Heroin isn’t something to play around with. Everyone that barely knows anything about drugs knows, that its highly addictive. Even if it might be not as bad as other drugs(in terms of physical damage) it is a very dangerous drug and even tho, most people don’t know the details they know that its quite dangerous.
I think a lot of the time people get prescribed pain killers for legitimate injuries then they become addicted to opiates and when the prescription runs out they seek them from another source ex. Heroin
Deep down, I know the cure for my depression is cocaine or meth. I just am too depressed to get any of it and I don’t think mania suits my vibe.
Edit: MDMA would also likely work, but that drug is almost a literal fast acting antidepressant similar in effect to SSRI’s so I think it hits the nail too hard on the head.
There are amphetamine antidepressants. You can ask your doctor about it (e.g. bupropion, which is not addictive).
Brother I’ve been on bupropion and I loved it. Hypomania is a blast, though maybe not for someone taking to me due to pressured speech. The tachycardia and tremors though, was a bit much for me.
Yeah I’ve been on bupropion for about 1.5 years. Had an increased heart rate in the beginning as well so we started at a very low dosis, then went up step by step. However the side effects vanished after 2 months. I don’t feel hyper active, I just don’t feel super low anymore. It doesn’t make the depression go away but it allows me to work on it, because otherwise I couldn’t even get out of bed
i mean psilocybin (administered by a professional and in a safe environment) is actually documented to work for some people, so maybe hold out for that instead of drugs that may well be 50% drain cleaner depending on where you get it?
MDMA is also documented to be very effective in curing depression, but as you said, its not as easy to tell if they used other stuff to mix it into the MDMA
Its what literally changed my life. I was really socialy awkward, spend most of my lide behind a computer, and when I managed to go out to parties in a subculture scene parties I loved, I couldnt talk to anyone, had a few beers awkwardly in a corner and went home.
Then I met someone who introduced me to MDMA. That happened almost 8 years ago, and now I am an organizer of 2/3 of the same scene regular parties in our city, Im helping and DJing on a festival that happens here, and am living my best life in that regard. All thanks to that one best friend who got me something that made me talk to, and get to actually know people in the scene in the extent that I always wanted, and get comfortable enough that I no longer need to be high to interact with anyone. Since now they are friends and regulars, and not random people I wanted to talk to, but was afraid of approaching.
But, it wasn’t as easy as it sounds. I was always trying to be responsible and cautious, and In did get bordeline to addiction in the process, which I was fortunately able to recognize early and put a stop to it by getting help in a adictiology nonprofit. It was never bad, more like a precaution. And I caught it in the best possible moment. I’ll never forget my first group session, where literally everyone else said “I’m 35+, I used to take stuff at parties for fun when I was 25, and then I ended for 10 years in meth…”.
Everyone had similar story. And I went “Well, I’m 25, and I take stuff on parties for fun…”. And that was a really strong lesson, where I realized I’m stopping a really huge problem at exactly the right time.
So, it might help. It is definitely fun, but it is so hard to not end up badly. You will need a lot of luck, especially if you are exploring it on your own. I still take things on parties, but with personal experience about the dangers it has. And getting that, is something that no one can give you, unless you see it for yourself. And for most of the people, that comes too late. I was lucky, you probably won’t be. But in conclusion - drugs are amazing, and have changed my life. Its a shame that personal experience will probably vary.
For anxiety cases like yours, something that is very seritonigernic (which MDMA is) is very helpful. For unipolar depression without anxiety it may be just a nice manic episode. For type 1 bipolar depression, it might be a nice way to get yourself involuntarily committed, arrested, or, if you’re really having a good time, both.
I was talking about how hard it was for me to cut 5 pounds for my fight. This one guy told me I should take up meth to make weight. Genuinely look at him with utter confusion.
Had a lady demand I hire more meth addicted as ‘‘they work really hard for nothing’’
I declined her business advice.
He’s right. They used to put meth in chocolate and marketed it as a great way for housewives to lose weight while keeping their home tidy.
Anhedonia is horrifying if you think about it.
It’s horrifying if you feel it too
If you do I’m sorry.
I don’t always, but I sometimes do. I used to a lot though. Didn’t really feel much of anything but a dull ache as a teenager. Thank fuck I’m past that
Honestly though hallucinogens really need to be more mainstream. Acid completely changed my outlook on life and give me a perspective of life and myself I would never have gotten through therapy or any other depression suppressants.
It’s also cheap as balls if you find a good plug. 10 bucks for an all day ticket is wild you just have to be with someone you trust with your life who won’t fuck with you.
There are people trying pretty hard to make that happen, though mostly in the context of supervised medical interventions.
Which I’m here for - while a lot of people do OK (fantastically even) with less structured psychedelic experiences, many do not. A really bad trip can do a number on you, sometimes for a long while.
Vitamin D deficiency is a silent widespread issue for a lot of people. Had a battle with it a few years ago. Was tired no matter how much sleep I got, had negative motivation to do anything. Libido all but disappeared, and finally sought a doctor visit when I started have suicidal thoughts.
Turns out I just needed more sunshine and 50kiU once a week for a month.
kiU
I know vitamins are typically measured (at least here in the US) in International Units (IU), but I’ve never heard of “kiU”.
What’s that short for?
Looks like kilo-International Unit
Correct. 50,000 (imperial) iU. I was super deficient.
Alcohol is a depressant my man.
Neurologically speaking, so in a different context, yeah, but neurological depression also seems to lead to actual depression, the mood disorder, which also show up as neurological depression.
We really need better imaging tools to measure neurotransmitter activity, would make for several advancements I’d say
Abuse of any psychoactive drug on the regular leads to depression. It isn’t just this concept of depressant or stimulant or even related in any way. Any stimhead can tell you all about the suicidal ideation inducing comedowns and inability to get anything done after stopping use.
Abuse of any psychoactive drug on the regular leads to depression.
That’s a biased generalisation.
While abusers of psychedelics are rare, they’re generally manic and psychotic moreso than depressed.
Yes, depression can be caused by any addiction and abusing stims can cause a lack of neurotransmitter due to exhausting the resources for the body to do so.
It’s a bit different than using something that’s a direct depressant though.
Depressant isn’t linked to depression tho. Get that idea out of your head completely. Like seriously go read some neuro textbooks and stop getting your pharmacology info from tiktok. Depressants depress the CNS… depression is a mental illness.
Also I’ve abused psychs and known a few others that did and I wouldn’t call any of our our activities/side effects manic or psychotic by any means. I know one person who had a family history of schizophrenia that had negative effects like that from their abuse. But just the one. I’d be interested in scholarly articles about the subject tho since I have biased data, and apparently, yours is not, at least from what one would construe from your comment.
My dearest friend for the past 25 years became a drug addict. She died of an OD on Saturday. Left two young children with no parents. (Dad left years ago). I witnessed her spiral into addiction and destruction over the past 2 years. I couldn’t stop it. I tried.
If you want to become an addicted to something, please try masturbation or video games.
if you think drug euphorias are high.
Just wait until you find out what the lows are like.
Sounds expensive lol
