USA: What about second Church? We can cut school.
Watson Heston had no trouble explaining this to people via cartoon in the 19th century.
Bonus cartoon:
The funny thing is, being anti religion in public schools was a Protestant thing in the 19th century US. The KKK were also very much in favor of public education without religion, and advocated for laws against private schools. Private schools were associated with Catholicism, until integration - you can see the allusion with the shadow of the mitre in the second image.
Evangelical Christians have really just been throwing a decades long fit over the fact that Black children get to go to the same school as their kids.
In general, but in Heston’s case, he really hated all religion. Sometimes to a degree that turned into racism. But most of his comics are still pretty funny. I can somewhat forgive a Victorian-era racist considering the time they were living in. He definitely reserved most of his time to hating on Christianity and the Bible. In very pithy and entertaining ways.
I remember when Lauren Boebert said the church should be telling the government what to do, and the crowd she said this to cheered.
Disagree. People without any religious knowledge are more susceptible to being lured into one.
Instead, school should teach about the history (how they came to be) of the mayor religions.
Out of curiosity do you have any evidence to back that claim for those raised in an environment where you have a high degree of science education? Like I know without science to explain the natural world, religion makes “sense”. But as long as you have a strong knowledge base in science I’m not convinced people would be easily swayed by religion.
For example, I was raised without religion, and I’ve never seen much of a reason to learn about it. That being said whenever I hear someone talk about religion it sounds particularly absurd to my ears. “Sky Daddy will fix all your ills, you just need to trust in sky Daddy. Sky Daddy doesn’t like it when you X.” I’m sorry, what? Uh no.
Same reason as why sexual education is important. You can’t make an informed choice if you’re not informed.
No. We already know how to prevent that without teaching religion. Building a solid foundation on science, critical thinking and evidence based knowledge.
Texas just passed a law that gives extra funding to public schools that teach the Bible.
Meanwhile, in my country, laicism is mandatory for public schools.
Checked my Texas municipal property taxes recently. We’ve dropped ISD funding by 30% over five years. Meanwhile, city police spending has surged by 25%.
So I’m paying slightly less than I did five years ago, but over $1k/year of that has simply been a transfer from teachers to cops.
Does it specify which bible?
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science hasn’t been anywhere near there for as long as I can remember
I recognize this artist instantly - it’s Matt Wuerker, a fellow student from Lewis & Clark College. He and I worked on the school paper at the same time - he had already developed his distinctive cartooning style at that age. I don’t recall ever talking with him, so I srsly doubt he would remember me, but I’ve always been a fan of his work. He’s one of the more distinguished L&C grads IMO - along with Monica Lewinsky and actress Markie Post (RIP, best known as the beautiful lawyer on Night Court).
That’s never gonna happen as long as Republicans are fascist religious extremists, and the only other option literally still thinks God talks to them directly.
Biden, 81, told Stephanopoulos, 63, that he doesn’t intend on exiting the race, and only a higher power intervening would make it happen.
"Look, I mean, if the Lord Almighty came down and said, ‘Joe, get outta the race,’ I’d get outta the race,” he said, adding, “The Lord Almighty’s not comin’ down.”
Republicans dove head first into religion, so that means the only other option Americans get is a “benevolent” deluded religious person.
Because no matter how bad Republicans get. Our only other option will always meet them halfway.
I don’t disagree about the GOP, but that quote doesn’t say what you’re asserting it does, lol. He doesn’t say that God talks to him in your quote, he was giving a hyperbolic example of what would make him drop out. Ironically, he dropped out almost immediately after this.
Yeah, I think it’s meant as a kind of “when pigs fly” statement.
Does that mean Pelosi is god?
Nah. Their religion is a polytheistic one with the wealthy owner donors as the deities. Pelosi is their prophet and shepherd.
He’s a lifelong devoted Catholic…
When Catholics pray, it’s too God. And they believe God shows them signs for guidance.
Biden believes he communes with God.
That is not something modern society should want in a leader
Which is the entire point of this post …
What was the point of your quote? It was completely irrelevant when you could’ve just said you don’t like religious people at all. Regardless, I don’t give a shit if people pray, I only care if they try to force their religion and/or religious beliefs on others.
There were a few time periods in our history where religion and the church where the highest drivers for scientific progress. In part because of the believe that our understanding of the world would bring us closer to it’s creator, but more so the fact that knowledge is power - the more you knew about the world the bigger the kingdom you could rule.
Nowadays access to knowledge is trivial, so the power comes not from the knowledge itself but from controlling the flow of information. If you can find an excuse for people to not ask the right questions, then you have power over them. This is sort of the main shtick with the church and government right now. While the government has the resources, the church has the experience. That’s why they are so hard to separate. They both have a hard on for each other.
The only way religion should be handled in school is in a philosophy class
Maybe I’m even more cynical, but it feels like us evangelical christianity is being used as a tool. A gullible fool.
So all these old gheezers are vaguely pushing for a US Christian nationalism… But coronated someone who doesn’t really care about that beyond how they can elect him, and basically shoved their values out the the party’s window.
And US youth is increasingly less Christian. Including Trump supporting youth.
So… I’m not even worried about this long term, relative to everything else to worry about. There will be short term scares, but post Trump Trumpism is not going to be very religious.
Project 2025 and the Heritage Foundation would like a word. Or not. They do better when no one pays attention to them.
Orange man indeed doesn’t care.
It’s the people whispering in his ear that are pushing their brand of Christianity™ to positions of power.You have to be gullible to become an evangelical in the first place.
This should not be controversial
Alt: the freethought road versus the Orthodox route, a drawing from 1890 about the separate paths faith and reason will lead you to.
You can choose a ready guide in some celestial voice
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice
You can choose from phantom fears and kindness that can kill
I will choose the path that’s clear; I will choose Freewill!-Freewill by Rush
Theology has no place at the table of knowledge
Except in social studies class. People should be aware of other people’s religions. But each religion should be taught equally, or in proportion to how many members they have. Kids should also be able to learn why people join religions and why religions are persuasive.
