The exact point will be the advent of the internet.

For democracy? Yes.

The longer the rubes hold on to this pipe dream that the dems can make a come back the further we will slip and longer it will take to recover. Unfortunately, I don’t think democrat party members will ever give up on the democratic party and they will spend all their political goodwill investing in this farce of a party long after the elections are still free and fair.

Say, free and fair elections survive by some act of god. That doesn’t change the fact the GOP can beat them handley in a free and fair election. The only thing trump needed to cement his win was the Supreme Court to sign off on everything. Given immunity all the road blocks trump had before have been lifted.

We have till January and you will see what the executive is actually capable of, with limp dick biden kicked to the curb.

The terror that will be trumps deportation methods will have your jaw drop and I’m not kidding. We tolerated kids in cages, Abu Ghraib is coming to America and our own sex trafficker and chief will begin some truly despicable shit. You better believe media capture is part of it because there is no way other country’s will be let in on this side of the veil.

I’m not a doomer. It’s not hyperbole. Im not an oracle and would pay my with my own life just to be wrong.

I still am hopeful though that my countrymen can snap out of it and quit dismissing reality in real-time, allowing us an actual chance at resisting this upheaval. If we wait till the midterms though, this shit is cooked, packed, and on the shelf.

If you want to say, look at American history, I’d quickly defer you to the 90s. Whatever we might have once been we are no longer that. We are consumers educated by infomercials who only know reality TV and “influencers”. Coke was the first plague, Springer the second. Followed by real world and road rules. All of this media “culture” stripped us of what it ever ment to be American. No one sits around and wanes intellectual about the founding fathers unless you’re a fashie supreme court justice or Lin-Manuel Miranda. Today, in 2024, the Apprentice is more American than George Washington.

There was a time when a single black women sitting at the front of a bus could change a nation. Today Rosa would hit the front page of reddit on a Wednesday and fall off by the time Europeans woke up to see.

Glad you’re ok, and seem pretty cool from the little I know of you. We got a raw deal in all this, you know. I think it’s OK to feel that way.

I know, I’m the child of two. For the last 20 years I’ve been completely isolated from all my family by no doing of my own. I often wonder what the fuck all that was about. You know, the whole, bringing 4 kids into the world then putting fasicists into power. Like I got problems, true, but I’d of prefered keeping myself and not being a plague to those around me.

Miss me with your bullshit. You can support the cause now, no matter where you live, or you can be another negative force in a sea of negativity.

I won’t waste my time with you, though, that’s for sure.

Considering everyone I talk to has given up just like the OP, not very far. Hey, it doesn’t have to be that way. You could commit to it right now and spread the word. I’m just one guy who will keep advocating. You could too. If I’m mathing correctly, that would double my efforts.

You’re not adult, you’re throwing a tantrum. You need to accept this loss was a complete loss. There’s not going to be a righteous come back. Grow the fuck up. They are a sunk cost and I pray 🙏 for you when you come to this realization. You seem to need them.

What the fuck do you care what happens to the dems? They don’t give a shit about you.

The people you should be taking seriously is the right. They’ve crushed the dems at every impasse. Every power struggle since Regan the right has won out completely. They are playing for keeps and for you now to condescend to me at the height of their power, it’s a fucking joke. You lost. You’ll continue to lose. You’re playing checkers they are stocking ammo.

Fucking joke.

It doesn’t have to be that way, you know.

The morals you espose, come from a place they don’t have. It’s a weight, it’s hard. Lift the weight and toss it aside, it’s holding you back. You don’t have anything left to fear. The worse has happened. There’s no reversing climate change. There is no American democracy to even go back to, it was a rigged game from the start. Unburden yourself. Use that wasted energy for a limp dick party like the democrats and join the rest of us in the new world.

No, it will work if we get your buy in, but youre already 3d chessing yourself out of it. Like, we’ve tried nothing and we are all out of ideas. Literally.

Self fulfilling prophecy.

There is no next time, bub.

Fascism won. The democrats proved they can’t beat fascism, period.

Unions aren’t the sole proprietor of the strike. It’s so disheartening to realize over and over again people like yourself have no imagination. No heart. No ingenuity and have to be constantly shown what is possible.

I disagree entirely. I would see the GOP get a taste of their own medicine and the DNC not be pussy bitches too afraid to serve it. Like it or not, your measured, “adult in the room” shit isn’t working and most people just feel condescended too. It’s of little consequence because what you have yet to accept is the door is shut already and the hissy fit would be honestly the last opportunity for the left to do something.

They won’t.

They’re punk ass bitches.

Just like you.

Neat.

If ir doesn’t matter, do it for the lawls then.

Just del and ctrl-c ctrl-v some other republican chud. It’s just sad.

The one tool Americans refuse to use.

Apparently we haven’t been fucked enough yet. I’m honestly curious how low we will go. I suspect there is no bottom and Americans are just flesh bags trained to seek out meat grinders.

I’ll never get why people cling desperately to these people suspected of kid diddling. There are millions of people right? What the fuck is so special about that one that we need to excuse them for preying on children?

This isn’t a question for people in power. I understand their plea is game recognizes game. This is for all the voters that prop these people up.

At this point I think the GOP are just taunting people who won’t bring kids into this. Jokes on them though, if theyre having kids from some sort obligation and not to love and properly nurture them it’s just bad news for everyone involved. Have fun with all that trauma.