Watch The Boys for exactly that. You won’t get that from Disney.
Also the Invincible animated series does it too.
I totally agree with both your comments, but to be fair, they said “movies”.
Maybe season 1 of the boys. It devolves into disgust porn in the later seasons.
It always bugged me how in Man of Steel, Superman has to deal with the moral quandary of breaking the bad guy’s neck at the cost of vaporizing a family.
Like they spent the previous 20 minutes punching each other through buildings. No way that was the first family they killed.
I’ve missed a lot of DC movies, but wasn’t Ben Affleck’s Batman inspired to come out of retirement due to this … Or something like that? I might be completely bungling the details.
Yeah, more or less. Then they stop fighting because both of their moms are named Martha. That movie is one of the worst things ever created.
Didn’t The Incredibles have a backstory like that where supes are basically illegal after they caused too much collateral damage?
Perhaps they are going for a tone of heroic escapism, or fantastical drama over gory and downbeat “realism”.
If you really just want to see heroes maiming people it’s been done. Invincible, The Boys (show and comic). Even back to the 90s there were comics like Stormwatch that centered on the premise of “realistic” consequences of super powers.
The web serial Worm by Wildbow, written like 10-15 years ago maybe, is also a pretty good superhero deconstruction.
I mean this is how Civil War and Age of Ultron comes about?
Someone did an analysis of what would happen if Superman actually punched you at full strength, and it turns out his fist would never connect with you, because you’d be vaporized by the wave of nuclear explosions erupting from his knuckles as they caused air molecules to fuse in nanoseconds.
Brightburn. I haven’t seen it (yet), but alternate universe where Superman becomes evil. Trailers showed him absolutely wrecking his classmates in anger and frustration.
Ooh! This sounds great! I’m going to look it up right now.
That movie is pretty fucked, but in a weird way that makes it good? Like it’s kinda weird seeing Elizabeth Banks and that one guy from The Office being the parents, but they do a good job.
There’s one scene in particular that kinda fucked me up, but you haven’t seen it so I won’t tell you.
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I think Zach Snyder tried for this in Batman v Superman but of course he did so with no appreciation of the themes or subtlety. And Martha.
Why did you say that name?
Man of Steel Woman of Kleenex by Larry Niven is a weird take on this
Exploring the failed attempts and the real struggles of being a hero.
Watch Bully Maguire
We do know from the 80’s movies that Clark Kent couldn’t be with Louis while he was human. I guess he’d accidentally kill her while humping? They never really say why he can’t be with her, just that he can’t.
I kinda assumed it was the spider man type explanation where them being together would put her in constant danger
