• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    The sheriff’s office said the woman, who was not at the home, had called deputies before the shooting to report two trespassers on her property. She also called Metz, who drove over to the home and allegedly blocked the teen’s car from leaving, KUSA reported.

    Metz then got out of his vehicle and is alleged to have fired one round through the windshield of the teen’s car, the station reported.

    These fuckeits refuse to ever just let a situation de-escalate on its own

    Like, you drive there to make them leave, prevent them from leaving. And shoot at the fucking driver before speaking to them.

    We can’t ignore the real life consequences of all this fucking fear mongering.

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      They don’t want to deescalate. They already had a big celebration planned in their head for murdering someone before they even do the act. They want to kill people so they can look like some hero. These people are sick and as far as I’m concerned their punishment should equal their crime.

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      According to an arrest affidavit obtained by the station, one of the teens reported hearing Metz say “Oh s—, my gun just went off” after the shooting.

      The kids did trespass by hopping a fence, I’m guessing his defense is going to be he was just trying to hold them there for police but accidentally discharged his weapon into a kids face. The fuckwit is really lucky the kid lived.

      I can’t understand the idiotic appeal of inserting yourself into these situations when the police are already on the way and there’s no danger to yourself to just waiting and letting them handle it.

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      Current report is the gun accidentally went off. Dude deserves the books thrown at him though. Kids where already off his property and honestly where not a threat in the first place. This is like that one story where the dude shot at a car turning around in his driveway.

      As someone who owns multiple guns both for sport and hunting these are the people that should not ever own one!!!

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        Gun owner here.

        1. Treat all guns as if they are always loaded - Followed
        2. Never let the muzzle point at anything that you are not willing to destroy - Violated
        3. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on target and you have made the decision to shoot - Violated
        4. Be sure of your target and what is behind it - Violated

        This shooter violated three of the four fundamental gun safety rules. That’s not an accident. It’s attempted murder.

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        Rule#1 of responsible gun ownership: always assume the gun is loaded

        Also

        Rule#1 of responsible gun ownership: never point a gun barrel at somebody unless you intend to kill them.

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      allegedly blocked the teen’s car from leaving . . .

      Sounds like unlawful imprisonment to me. I’m sure he will be prosecuted for that (NOT).

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    Brent Metz is accused of shooting a 17-year-old in the face after the teenager trespassed on a property to find a homeowner and inquire about taking homecoming photos there. (Jackson County Sheriffs Office)

    Trespassing? So walking to someones door looking for the owner of the house is now Trespassing? Wtf

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      Not a lawyer. By the letter of the law, yes.

      They had to jump the fence - presumably the gate was secured - in order to get to the house. Further, they walked around the property looking for the owner. This looks to anyone without more knowledge, very much like trespassing.

      Just my 2 cents, I’m not trying to defend or accuse anyone.

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        It’s way more than just trigger discipline. There’s the traditional rules of course:

        • Never point your gun at something you do not intend to kill
        • Be sure of your target and what’s beyond
        • Trigger discipline

        But there’s also reasonable shit beyond the 5 basic rules:

        • Don’t willingly put yourself in a situation where use of a gun may be warranted.
        • Property isn’t worth killing over, especially in situations where you had to go out of your way to put yourself in perceived danger to protect it.
        • Don’t block in the person you are trying to convince to leave.
        • People with guns commit more acts of violence than those who don’t. Owning a gun is an irresponsible choice. There are more and there are less responsible gun owners, but owning a gun puts you and those around at a greater risk of violence. When all you have is a hammer …
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            There are 5 basic rules for guns:

            • Treat every gun as if it were loaded.
            • Always point your gun in a safe direction.
            • Never point your gun at anything you don’t intend to shoot.
            • Keep your finger off the trigger until you’re ready to shoot.
            • Be sure of your target and what’s beyond.

            What I posted was a subset of the five then alluded to the full list.

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    I was going to say that “stand your ground” laws shouldn’t exist when so many people are terrified of shadows.

    But that’s it isn’t it? If they’re terrified of shadows then a gun and a power fantasy is the answer.

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      This isn’t even stand your ground or castle doctrine or anything. The homeowner wasn’t even home and they were outside the front gate when shot. That’s the craziest part to me, absolutely no one was in danger until the dude showed up.

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      By the same government encouraging their armament. “Give them guns” and also “they’re coming for YOU so be afraid!”

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          And yet the GOP (mostly) either don’t give a fuck, have no moral courage, or are bought and paid for by the firearm industry. And then they use fear to keep their base glued to their propaganda machine and voting them into power on a loop.

          Meanwhile the DNC keep trying to compromise as if both sides were still using the same playbook (which they ain’t) and have thus drifted so far to the right that they’re basically Republican lite. So much so that when progressives try to yank them back to their roots, the Republicrats resist and call the progressives “too extreme”.

          Gawd I hate this quagmire.

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    It wasn’t even his house; it was his girlfriend’s. She thought they were trespassers, she called him for help (she also called the sheriff) and he showed up pointing a gun.

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      They also were in their car outside the gate to the property. TECHNICALLY that gate may be inside the property line, but that’s still totally egregious.

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    This is why stand your ground laws can’t realistically exist in places that aren’t sparsely populated. Because someone will read “defend your property and life with force if necessary” as “act as a raging lunatic and attempt to shoot anyone who comes at the door because it’s legal to do so if you claim you were defending your property, even though there was no indication of actual imminent danger to property or people”.

    In my country we don’t have stand your ground laws. You can only defend yourself in case of an attack, but not drive away a thief. You’re supposed to run and call the police, but I keep wondering if a legal framework like the US where you weren’t legally punished for attacking a thief in your house wouldn’t be fairer but then there’s news like this.

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      You are acting as if it were actually complicated. Requiring no duty to retreat makes perfect sense in your own home. The law most sane places says you have to be in a situation where a reasonable person would be in fear for life or bodily injury.

      Note “reasonable person” is a common legal standard. A reasonable person doesn’t think someone outside is automatically a threat. People who shiit then ask questions go to jail.

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    So I’m reading idiot who can’t read a situation and who is super scared, also has shit trigger discipline and as a result a kid was injured and possibly damaged for life… we really need to at the very least make training a requirement, even just a written exam would help…

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      You can’t train out the stupid.

      I’ve taken regular gun safety classes. They’re less stringent than a driver’s ed class. It’s like taking the driver safety class after you’ve gotten a ticket. Yeah, yeah…let’s just get through this shit so I can get back to whatever.

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      we really need to at the very least make training a requirement, even just a written exam would help…

      Cue gun nuts, “…shall not be infringed!”

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        I mean. I have a lot of guns (mostly inherited), but mu family taught me safety, storage, etc. No crazy mods, just magazines, grips and such. Meanwhile my friends when they turned 18 were packing in their pants and shooting eouble barreled derringers and shit. Another friend and I took them to a range and had to teach them safety so they wouldn’t hurt themselves.

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          I totally agree with your comment that I replied to. But I also know that making literally anything a requirement for gun ownership is a bridge too far for enough gun owners that I am doubtful we’re going to see any meaningful new restrictions anytime soon.

          At least until the right stops salivating for a second civil war, but even that might not be enough for some sane attitudes to prevail.

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      All he had to go off was a vehicle with 2 teenagers inside and the call from his girlfriend that there were trespassers on the property. Depending on what exactly was said on the call and what happened between him blocking the vehicle in and the shot, he might just have shit trigger discipline and his girlfriend is the one who is super scared of anyone she sees on their security cameras. He is still an idiot for trying to block their vehicle in any case though.

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    Oh shit, my gun just went off

    I’m not sure what he was expecting the gun to do. You never point at anything or anyone you don’t intend to destroy. Treat every gun as if it has a hair-trigger.

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    Reminder that guns don’t just “go off” and anyone that suggests this should be disregarded as the nincompoop they very clearly are.

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    Confiscate the fucking town councilman’s guns, prosecute the dumbass for attempted murder and hopefully the teen will sue the living shit out of him.