F you, Taylor Swift!” shouted Megyn Kelly, “and f all of the people who want to see these children have body parts chopped off.”

For those not fluent in Republican crazy-speak, Kelly’s meltdown was triggered by Taylor Swift’s endorsement of Kamala Harris the night before, barely one hour after Trump all but face-planted on the debate stage. Kelly was especially triggered by Swift highlighting her appreciation for vice presidential nominee Tim Walz’s support of LGBTQ+ rights.

Other right-wing commentators, like Ben Shapiro, took another approach: making fun of Swifties. “Note: if you vote for a particular candidate because your favorite singer is doing so, please don’t vote. You are too stupid to vote,” wrote Shapiro on X. Meanwhile, Elon Musk, the richest man on the planet, threatened to impregnate her.

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    “F you, Taylor Swift!” shouted Megyn Kelly, “and f all of the people who want to see these children have body parts chopped off.”

    Weird

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        In the U.S. it’s not necessarily a christian thing. But the ven diagram of people who circumcise their children in the U.S. and chrstians is very close to a circle.

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          But the ven diagram of people who circumcise their children in the U.S. and chrstians is very close to a circle.

          Sorry, but that’s not even close. Male circumcision is very commonly practiced among the Jewish and Islamic faiths as well as American Christians, who I guess just can’t resist a fad.

          According to current estimations, approximately 30% of all males across the world— representing a total of approximately 670 million men — are circumcised. Of this number, about 68% are of Islamic faith, less than 1% of Jewish faith, and 13% are non-Muslim, non-Jewish Americans.

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            You’re giving the world numbers. Olgratin was talking about the US. I don’t know the US numbers but they could very well be quite different.

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            Which is why I said it was very close, not “a damn near circle” like people normally say with that phrase.

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        Actually, this name traces all the way back to the first cavewoman gynecologist. At the time, they named themselves based on their professions. Megyn is short for “me gynecologist”.

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    “and f all of the people who want to see these children have body parts chopped off.”

    As someone living in a country whey we don’t chop off the foreskin of little children, whereas conservative Americans love that chopping procedure, I find this statement slightly amusing.

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        Babies. They mutilate the genitals of their babies because they believe their god desires it.

        It’s called mental illness. These people aren’t simply “weird”. They’re insane, a danger to their children, their communities, and their country.

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          There’s some truth in this, but I think we should be mindful of nuance. Some parents do need to make decisions for medical reasons. Those reasons are often still exaggerated, and many parents aren’t making an informed decision. I’ve had friends that required the procedure after puberty, but I’m pretty sure they’ve said there was no way they could have known prior to puberty anyway. I don’t know anyone that needed it as a baby, but it can happen when obstructions develop in utero.

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            Circumcision as medical treatment is fine, as long as it’s legitimate; though I also have a strong suspicion that most medical circumcision — due to phimosis — is actually due to the sexual shame of religious “cultures”, and simply wouldn’t be necessary if parents actually washed their babies/infants penises properly (by pulling back the foreskin) and teaching them to do the same. Obviously the foreskin stiffens and fuses shut when it’s not stretched for years — no different to any other body part. I remember it took weeks to masturbate because I rarely pulled the skin back, and trying to do so took time to stretch it out. I could have easily ended up with phimosis in slightly different circumstances… I could barely touch my toes 3 months ago; now, after stretching a few times a week, I can stand on my palms.

            It’s not like a significant number of other ape species experience this disorder. If the foreskin wasn’t beneficial then we wouldn’t have it. We don’t cut our ears off because it’s easier to clean the area without them, either.

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      They have a covenant with their diety about slicing up little baby penises and this is the shit they say. Incredible.

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    … Ben Shapiro accusing other people of not being smart enough to vote…

    He should practice what he preaches and not vote, himself.

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    Republicans: Cancel culture is ruining the country!

    Also Republicans: You endorsed Harris? Kiss your Republican record sales goodbye!

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      No no no, you see, when the left does it, it’s cancel culture and literally communism. When the right does it, it’s voting with your dollar, literally capitalism. Not comparable at all!!

      /s

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      Which is hilarious since the main source of income for musicians ever since streaming took off is live shows and merch… albums are a vehicle to drive attendance at concerts, for which Swift is pretty good at packing stadiums full of people. Even if she loses 30% of her listeners, she’ll still sell out concerts and total revenue would likely be about the same because those seats will be taken up by other fans who would have otherwise missed out on the sold-out show.

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    Once again, we see what the debate between Harris and Trump illustrated very clearly: The GOP in its current state is not pursuing any program whatsoever, but merely builds up imaginary enemy stereotypes that they blame for all their problems - without any even halfway factual reasons. Democratic processes are impossible with this tedious kindergarten approach because they are based on factual arguments, cooperation and the willingness to find common ground. I sincerely hope that there are some rational thinking conservatives left who will refuse to vote for this hateful orange moron and his ridiculous henchmen.

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      Yeah, it’s almost as if all their talking points and strategies are fed to them by a hostile foreign power that wants to destabilize its enemy. Weird.

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      I hate that it’ll be taboo to call them stupid in ten years. "Do you remember how stupid you were acting? What’s to make me believe you aren’t still that stupid"will be frowned upon. But seriously they’re behaving, and voting, that fucking stupidly.

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    I hate their “children’s body parts chopped off” bit. Most doctors won’t do until they’re 18 and even then the number of people who do it is miniscule compared to the overall population or the rest of the LGBT community. Imagine being so uncomfortable in your own skin that you decide that’s your best option. Have some ducking compassion, Megyn.

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      Unless it’s circumcision for religious reasons … then chopping off body parts is A’OK.

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      These are the same people who, faced with an obviously intersex newborn, would 100% surgically mutilate the baby to fit in a binary ASAP without thinking twice.

      It never is and never was about protecting children.

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          Rupert Murdoch, Elon Musk, and Mark Zuckerberg all seem happy to foster right wing conspiracy incubators. Its not going to stop until at least there is some transparency in their content algorithms or extreme fines for media companies that promote misleading/fake/nonsense information.

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      Leading up to the debate, a whole bunch of new propaganda got pushed. Haitians eating cats in Ohio, Post-birth-abortions, and forced transitions for children, prisoners, and illegal-aliens. Totally normal conspiracy theories based on absolutely nothing

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        I caught the cat eating thing, and the post-birth abortion thing. I must have been too distracted by the Venezuelan gangs that are supposed to have taken over my city to catch the other stuff.

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          How do you have any gangs if they’re all in jails getting free SRS? How do you even have a city when they were all razed by Dems rioting in 2020? Something is not adding up, either you or the Repub propaganda apparatus is lying.

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        Well, no one is forcing transitions, but we do and should continue to provide necessary medical care for prisoners. Arguably that care needs improvement in terms of accessibility for citizens and immigrants alike, which I think is where Trump pointed out Harris has truthfully put some work into.

        That’s what sucks about so many of these claims. Are they based on any truth?

        I will say, it’s at least a good exercise in critical thinking to have to go claim by claim, as exhausting as it is to so consistently find blatant lies, let alone half-truths.

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      One of the Republican talking points in this election is that parents are sending their kids to school in the morning and they are coming home with their dicks chopped off in the afternoon because Democrats are performing operations on them to turn them trans. Yes, it is very weird and completely untrue.

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      I don’t think it’s about abortion. I think they decided allowing a transgender teen to exist is “dismembering children” even if surgery for trans teens barely ever happens IRL. If they were actually worried about gender affirming surgery for minors, they’d want to ban nose jobs and fake tits too. So, it’s just part of the general trans moral panic amongst conservatives and “Won’t someone please think of the children?” bullshit that always accompanies moral panics even if children aren’t involved.

      I’m cis but my understanding is that even trans adults find getting access to gender affirming healthcare is a huge, expensive ordeal. Philosophy Tube had a good video on her experience in the UK and I sincerely doubt it’s any easier in America’s labyrinthian, absurdly expensive non-system. It’s definitely not like parents are swinging by the urgent care to get their 13 year-olds free bottom surgery.

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      She may mean the process of abortion. Unfortunately, it can be gruesome if not performed early.

      Source: Wife worked in a family care clinic and assisted with many of these procedures.

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        That’s essentially what I told my wife last night. If you’re undecided and watched the debate and still are undecided, just admit you’re a Trump voter.

        Seems you don’t even trust what your wife has to say, not sure why you’d ‘source’ her and expect everyone else to.

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    the richest man in the world “threatened to impregnate her” holy shit what bizarre world we are living in.

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    The party of rapists, child molesters and murderers is mad at Taylor Swift. She must’ve done something right. 🤔

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        It’s ok to not like something, you know. Pretending they’re not good is pretty weird tho.

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          No pretense. They are not good in my subjective opinion just like they might be good in your subjective opinion. There’s no objective taste.

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            Objectively speaking she can dance and keep a crowd going while still hitting her notes. It doesn’t matter if you don’t enjoy the music, she’s objectively doing a good job. You critiqued her singing, not her music.

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          Being successful and not talented doesn’t make you talented even if success pays the bills better.

          Doesn’t mean Taylor Swift is not talented in her own way, I don’t get what triggered all you guys. It seems sometimes that the expected variety of thought among English speakers is less than among Russian speakers. Where even in the toxic Russian Web people would ask first, you guys go stampeding.

          Just like, say, Azerbaijan having oil to bribe politicians and wage war doesn’t mean they have history and culture and Armenia doesn’t. They would very much like to buy history and culture, but they can’t.

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    The argument that “you shouldn’t vote for someone just because your favorite celebrity endorses them” seemed like a much more credible argument before the 2016 election when the winning candidate essentially won by literally being a celebrity.

    Prior to 2016, Trump was probably best known for being the host of a reality TV show, and being a “businessman”. Taylor Swift is definitely better known, and you could also make a solid argument that she is a better “businessman” as well.

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    “F you, Taylor Swift!” shouted Megyn Kelly, “and f all of the people who want to see these children have body parts chopped off.”

    You guys remember the time Donald Trump accused this same woman who is now hysterically defending him of “blood coming out of her wherever” because she had the audacity to ask him about his sexism?

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      This reminds me of a thought I’ve been kicking around. All these Republicans who knew beforehand what a monster trump is, and now spend all their time gobbling his stumpy mushroom? They’re all examples of a weird variation on Stockholm syndrome. But instead of identifying with their captors on a personal level, they’ve identified their entire political party with him. They don’t think it can exist without him now.

      Once he kicks the bucket, psychologists are going to have a field day untangling this mental health mess.

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        You’re confused because your values include truth and integrity. Theirs do not. They care only about white supremacist hierarchy as the foundation for society.

        She simply used to think he would not get elected. Now she sees that he drives huge numbers of delusional bigots to vote.

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        There is a long list of places I would rather live. Mainly ones that offer Healthcare and vacation time.

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          One thing you have to realize is that a LOT of Americans HAVE very good health care and good vacation time. I do. I don’t have to worry about either of those things.

          In fact, there’s a lot about the US healthcare system that is actually better than other countries. If I want (not need) an MRI, I can literally get one today.

          Healthcare is more widely distributed in almost every other country, and I really really wish that we could get our shit together and separate healthcare from employment, I am voting, and donating, and I even went to a few protests about it.

          I have vacation time. Many of my coworkers don’t even use up all their vacation time. They don’t want to, cause they have an unhealthy relationship with work, but it is available to them.

          I live in a state that specifically passed laws (that I supported, and voted for) that specifically say we support gender affirming care and abortion rights, even for people traveling from states that don’t have those protections.

          The US isn’t one place, every state has it’s own laws that protect people in different ways. Many of the cities also have their own protections as well.

          I can move somewhere to get the exact same thing I have now, or I can stay here and keep pushing to help get EVERYONE else in this country the same quality of life that I have. And that’s what I’m going to do.

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            Found the person thinking like 5 weeks of holidays and access to MRI is some sort of flex outside of the US.

            About that, how many weeks of holidays do you actually have, like how many did you take say 2023? Paid vacation ofc.

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              Dude, I’m ON YOUR SIDE. Don’t attack me because I’m trying to explain why we’re not burning down the capital building.

              I WANT there to be big improvements, and yes, I just got back from a trip to Europe and actually sat down and talked to locals over there.

              I personally have very good vacation time, comparable to Europe, that I use.

              I personally have very good health care, probably better than many areas of Europe. I have used it. I understand the limitations of the various systems and for me, personally, it wouldn’t be an advantage to move to most other countries.

              There are MANY MANY people in the US that are in my same situation. But I also believe that even one person that doesn’t have the same access that I do is one too many, and the US system isn’t built to support them.

              Me moving to another country will NOT improve my situation, but it will hinder my ability to push for change for the other 300 million.

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              I’m not OP but I have FTO. Unlimited vacation time. And I’ll have taken about 8 weeks of vacation by end of this year. Living and working in the US currently.

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        “The United States, the 59th* most free country in the world” doesn’t really have a ring to it. FreedomHouse does a deep analysis every year. Finland, Sweden, and Norway are the places to be.

        *USA is 17th if you want to account for ties.

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    They are… I don’t know how to say it… weird? Could that be an appropriate term? I don’t know.

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    Celebrities have every right to voice their opinion on national issues.

    And, that is not a “zero risk” position.

    A recent example is the formerly known: “Dixie Chicks”. Research their dilemma.

    And in the past, late 1940’s, Hollywood had a “Blacklist” which was a very serious shit list which fucked over plenty of people.

    Many American celebrities are also citizens with every right to voice their opinion the same as your lawn sign or bumper sticker. Yet, sometimes, it’s a really good thing when those celebrities rally their groupies, Swifties, etc.

    Like almost always, it boils down to others being jealous of the “power” of other people.