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    I mean, that’s probably not gonna get the girl, but I think you taught her dad a little humility

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        On the contrary: guys like that are big on fear. That’s at the root of conservatism and toxic masculinity: fear of losing one’s life, one’s property, one’s place in the social hierarchy.

        When he saw another gun come out, he felt fear. Nothing teaches you better than that.

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      Starts talking about his own custom 1911 “First of all, the feeding ramp is polished to a mirror sheen. It’s not going to have any feeding problems. The slide’s been replaced with a reinforced version, and it meshes perfectly with the frame. The frame itself has been iron-welded and scraped down multiple times for maximum precision. The front strap part of the frame has been checkered to make it dig into the hand. That prevents any slipping. The sight system’s original too. It’s a 3-dot type. It’s got an enlarged front sight, giving it superior target sighting capability. The regular hammer’s been replaced with a ring hammer. That enhances the cocking control and increases the hammer-down speed. They also reworked the grip safety to accommodate the ring hammer. It looks like they eliminated it altogether. This is a tool for pros. The thumb safety and slide stop are extended for precise handling. The base of the trigger guard is whittled down so you can use a high grip, and the trigger itself is a long type for easy finger access. The trigger pull is about 3.5 pounds. that’s about a pound and a half lighter than normal. The magazine well has been widened to make it easier to put in a new magazine. The magazine catch button has been filed down low to make it harder to hit it by mistake. The mainspring housing has been changed to a flat type to increase grip, and it’s even been fitted with stepping so that it won’t slip from the recoil when firing. On top of that, they added cocking serrations to the top part of the slide. That lets you load and eject cartridges faster in an emergency. Whoever did this is a professional, no question. This thing could shoot a one-hole at 25 yards in a machine rest.”

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        Just take the safety off. It’s a mechanical device that can and will fail when you need it most. The best safety you have is yourself and rigidly held gun handling rules.

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            It’s a 1911…it has two external safeties at least. Glock fans like to say they’re monsters that shoot you in the leg for fun.

            I feel like our downvoted homie was making a joke in line with the copypasta.

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            I am generally against safeties on pistols because they should stay holstered if you’re carrying them, and the holster acts as the safety by blocking access to the trigger. If you’re in the act of shooting the gun, the saftey routinely gets in the way and requires training in an extra step before firing, something that could be a problem in an emergency. A common way to lose a violent encounter while carrying a gun is to fail to actually shoot your gun.

            A rifle needs a safety because there’s no good way to block accidental trigger pulls like that, since you have to open carry to have any reasonable amount of access.

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              Anyone carrying a gun in a holster should be required have sufficient training to use the safety properly.

              It gives you more time to think before killing something and also protects you from someone grabbing the gun or someone else mishandling your gun if it leaves your possession.

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                That’s not how defensive pistol use works. I would suggest watching a bunch of videos from the Active Self Protection YouTube channel if you want to see how self defense pistol encounters go. But no, there’s not enough time or space to pull your gun out and then contemplate using it. If you have that kind of time for reflection, you have the opportunity to disengage or de-escalate which should always be what you’re working towards.

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            I am generally against safeties on pistols because they should stay holstered if you’re carrying them, and the holster acts as the safety by blocking access to the trigger. If you’re in the act of shooting the gun, the saftey routinely gets in the way and requires training in an extra step before firing, something that could be a problem in an emergency. A common way to lose a violent encounter while carrying a gun is to fail to actually shoot your gun.

            A rifle needs a safety because there’s no good way to block accidental trigger pulls like that, since you have to open carry to have any reasonable amount of access.

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              If you’re in the act of shooting the gun, the saftey routinely gets in the way and requires training in an extra step before firing,

              Sounds like a good thing to me. How long could it possibly take?

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                It’s not actually the amount of time that it takes that’s the problem. With pistols that have safeties, the proper training is (usually) to turn the safety off when raising the gun. The problem is that it’s a critical step you can mess up or forget to do under stress. Then you’re left with a dead trigger having just pulled a gun in a situation you viewed as dangerous enough to require shooting someone. You’re also stressed to hell and unlikely to think “oh yes, my safety!” Throw in that these kinds of situations are ones where half a second can make a big difference, and the saftey is just another thing that can go wrong.

                There’s certainly tradeoffs, since not having a safety means it’s more likely your mistakes will result in a round being fired, but you can layer other procedures and devices to minimize that risk. In the end, it’s a feature that even the gun community can’t agree on, which is why some guns have them and some don’t.

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              If you’re in the act of shooting the gun, the saftey routinely gets in the way and requires training in an extra step before firing, something that could be a problem in an emergency. A common way to lose a violent encounter while carrying a gun is to fail to actually shoot your gun.

              i have a massive counter for you. If you aren’t trained well enough to be able to disengage the safety when needed.

              you probably shouldn’t be using a gun in an act of self defense

              in case you haven’t picked up on what im saying you need to train

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                The amount of training is kinda-sorta irrelevant. The amount of training you should be putting in is way higher than the amount you need to master the safety. But, the amount of training you need to put in is also high enough that you won’t ever have to rely on the saftey to prevent the gun from firing. So for me, if I can handle the gun without having to rely on a safety, that’s just one less thing that could go wrong and prevent me from firing my gun when I want to.

                A pistol can be carried so that either

                1. the trigger is inaccessible
                  Or
                2. The gun is in my hand

                You also set up your draw-stroke so that there’s no risk of the trigger catching on anything. With those conditions, the only thing a safety would do is prevent you from pulling the trigger. You shouldn’t have your finger on the trigger unless you’ve made the decision to fire, so the safety isn’t adding any value.

                The safety does have value on a rifle, where it’s harder to prevent things from hooking inside the trigger guard (since you will be carrying it uncontrolled with the trigger exposed) but a pistol doesn’t have the same manual of arms and, in my opinion, your carry gun shouldn’t have a safety.

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                  The amount of training is kinda-sorta irrelevant. The amount of training you should be putting in is way higher than the amount you need to master the safety. But, the amount of training you need to put in is also high enough that you won’t ever have to rely on the saftey to prevent the gun from firing. So for me, if I can handle the gun without having to rely on a safety, that’s just one less thing that could go wrong and prevent me from firing my gun when I want to.

                  i guess so but i’d still just argue that you should be training with the safety, such that it’s so second nature to you, it literally wouldn’t matter whether it exists or not.

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    I am pretty sure I am not allowed to pull out and place even an airsoft gun on the table where I live. The rules clearly state that it must be kept locked in a safe. That would be an easy way to get someone’s license revoked if you record it…

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        Yup. You first prove that you are sane and have no criminal background, your local government provides you with a certificate for that. And then you acknowledge that you know the rules and stuff. The final step is paying a small yearly fee.

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        They must not be Americans. I envy them, but at least when I eat my own weight in pizza it’s actually good pizza.

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      I don’t think this is legal basically anywhere. In the US, this would be brandishing or threatening with a deadly weapon.

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        Yeah maybe. Doesn’t seem to stop redneck fathers of teenage girls in conservative states. They consider it a rite of passage for fatherhood.

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          My FIL did a gun cleaning night when I was first taking his daughter out on dates. Had 3 guns disassembled on the kitchen table and let me know they’d be reassembled by the time I brought her home. He’s a really nice guy, but yes, that shit is “normal” in the US

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        It’d be hard to prove brandishing. As another poster said, it’s a legal weapon, in the homeowners abode, placed on the table, not pointed at or waived at the person, with nothing said around it. It’d be really hard to prove anything. He’ll, look at the white couple that was literally brandishing their guns and they almost got away with it.

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    place my gun on coffee table too

    Was it a Derringer chambered in .50 Action Express? 😏

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    oh god. my first girlfriend’s dad showed me his gun collection the first time I visited the house and I got so absorbed in field stripping his MAK-90 that I forgot she was there

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      Thanks for sharing the rest of the post. But I’m confused about who is speaking what during the last three lines after “even on our dates”.

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        GF: “Did you always have a gun?”

        Anon: “I always carry”

        GF: “Even on our dates? Did you think I was gonna rob you or something?”

        Anon: “Muggers don’t wait until it’s convienient for you to get robbed, you know?”

        GF: “Oh that makes sense.”

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        Girl: even on our dates

        2A bro: did you think I was gonna mug you? Why would I wait?

        Girl: got it

        That better?

        Though it makes it even less believable. Most dads I know that might do that have daughters that would appreciate it lol

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        The boyfriend interpreted as a bonding moment.

        The father meant his placing the gun as a threat and got “called” on his bluff and gets angry.

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            Dad doesn’t like losing the illusion of power. He thinks it’s perfectly fine to threaten someone but is a hypocrite the moment he met with equal force. So they tried gaslighting and getting defensive and blaming the person that they tried to threaten.

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    Tbh i dont understand this. Probably because im european plus im tired but i cant figure it out.

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      To give you a slightly more serious answer, there’s a trope in America of the girl friend’s dad doing something to “subtly intimidate” the boy friend by casually cleaning a gun or having one within sight the first time they meet. The implication of course is supposed to be something along the lines of “I’ve got this and if you try anything funny with my daughter, I’ll use it on you”

      It’s dumb but I’ve also known more than a few people who have experienced this first hand.

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        It gives say-no-to-me-or-any-other-male-in-my-fam-and-we’ll-dump-acid-on-you vibes

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      Dad shows a gun to show OP he’s a badass. Op doesn’t realize and shows his gun.

      Common American culture is that you’re supposed to show your gun on the third date with the family, not the first. You’re also supposed to have a Mexican standoff when you walk into the house, with dad aiming at you, you’re aiming at dad, dog aims at GF, etc. And if he’s lucky, they have a rousing game of Russian roulette before tapas.

      Totally understandable if you didn’t know. Just basic 2A knowledge every American learns about during elementary school.