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Summary

Donald Trump plans to discuss potentially ending childhood vaccination programs with Robert F. Kennedy Jr., his nominee for Health and Human Services.

Trump expressed openness to revisiting vaccine policies, citing concerns about autism rates, despite scientific consensus debunking links between vaccines and autism.

Critics warn reducing vaccinations could lead to outbreaks of preventable diseases like measles.

Kennedy, known for questioning vaccine safety, would oversee the CDC if confirmed.

Public health experts remain concerned about the implications.

  • NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world
    1073·
    7 days ago

    Anybody with half a brain can see the collapse of the U.S. coming from a mile away based on what’s happening right now. Our institutions are at an all-time low in trust, all bcz of this orange dickhead, and Russian/Chinese disinformation campaigns.

    • Gumby@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      2 days ago

      I agree with everything you said except that all the blame lies with Trump and Russian/Chinese disinfo campaigns. This has been going on since the Tea Party George W Bush/Cheney Newt Gingrich Reagan probably before anybody reading this was born

    • DarkFuture@lemmy.worldEnglish
      554·
      7 days ago

      all bcz of this orange dickhead, and Russian/Chinese disinformation campaigns.

      I mean yeah. But also because Americans are profoundly stupid. No excuses. As a whole, we’re stupid as fuck.

      • OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world
        165·
        7 days ago

        What’s this “we?” I take zero responsibility for the election of that idiot. I tried as hard as I could to get everyone I know to not vote for him.

        • DarkFuture@lemmy.worldEnglish
          224·
          7 days ago

          Eh. It’s “we” whether you like it or not, unfortunately.

          Do we really differentiate between the good and bad Germans in Nazi Germany? Not really. History paints with broad strokes. In the future we’re all going to look like the bad guys, whether we fought back or not. It’s a shameful time to be an American.

  • sunbytes@lemmy.world
    2·
    4 days ago

    Suddenly it’s an elective procedure and no longer covered by insurance.

    Though I guess it may get more expensive for insurers to cover the unvaccinated so the market might actually win out with that one…

  • garretble@lemmy.worldEnglish
    61·
    7 days ago

    “trump to discuss bringing back ever terrible disease we got rid of or mitigated in the 1900s with RFK Jr.”

  • eran_morad@lemmy.world
    562·
    7 days ago

    Okay, idiot republicunts. You happy now? Not only are eggs going to be MORE expensive because of bullshit tariffs, but your kids are going to die from measles and shit. Way to go, cunts.

    • blattrules@lemmy.worldEnglish
      261·
      7 days ago

      They won’t know about it until it personally affects them, then they’ll play the victim card.

    • dhork@lemmy.worldEnglish
      241·
      7 days ago

      Not their kids, they can afford the vaccines at list price. It’s the poors who will die, as Supply Side Jesus intended.

      • eran_morad@lemmy.world
        18·
        7 days ago

        All those hillbilly fuckbrains who voted for trump? All those suburban moms who voted for a rapist? Nah bruv, those people can’t afford a $1200 vaccine or whatever the fuck. The traitor oligarchs can, sure. Perhaps they will meet their fate via a different route, nahmean?

      • JaggedRobotPubes@lemmy.worldEnglish
        8·
        7 days ago

        How does that help them? It’s a vaccine. If just you have yours, it doesn’t work very well. It still helps some and objectively improves things so it’s still a good idea, but it’s not like having it when everybody does their job.

        • dhork@lemmy.worldEnglish
          61·
          7 days ago

          You are thinking like someone who gives a damn about other humans. Yes, everyone benefits when everyone who is able to gets the shot and we can keep the overall spread down.

          But what if you are the type of person who thinks that everything is a zero-sum game, and you’re not really a winner unless you have more than the other guy? What advantage is there to you, personally, if everyone benefits? It’s much better if you get the benefits, and people you hate do not.

    • Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world
      3·
      6 days ago

      To be fair, the price of eggs will likely be more affected by bird flu which will spread uncontrollably, since Trump will abolish all common sense regulations.

  • BrotherL0v3@lemmy.world
    48·
    7 days ago

    I hope at least a sizeable chunk of Trump voters regret voting for him. It breaks my heart to know that there are legitimately people who have paid attention to all his lies and already broken promises and still want the guy to lead the country. I don’t know how to salvage someone like that.

      • Railing5132@lemmy.world
        3·
        6 days ago

        I don’t think this is going to work. There are just as many younger trump/cultist/conservative voters now as there have been. Church attendance is not falling off and megachurches are getting more and more popular. People have been saying the same thing about the right-wing die-off as long as I’ve been a voter, and as much as I’d love to see it, I don’t see it happening.

        • Jimmycakes@lemmy.world
          1·
          5 days ago

          Well I don’t mean in our lifetime but maybe hundreds of years from now it will finally happen. What other choice do we have?

  • madcaesar@lemmy.world
    242·
    6 days ago

    Yes it must be the vaccines that are causing autism rates! Ignore the studies and decades of evidence that show they don’t, because they definitely do!

    It’s not all the micro plastic pollution, or car pollution, or chemicals in our water, or hormones in our food, no it’s definitely the vaccines!

    • This message is brought to you by Karen and Cletus
  • gift_of_gab@lemmy.world
    16·
    6 days ago

    Wow, the measles are going to absolutely ruin America, and then spread to the world. One of my family members was ‘immune’ to the vaccine for it, and a doctor took my aunt aside and told her that basically any large crowd was a danger to my cousin. IE. “Go to the fair and there’s a chance he catches it.” Luckily he was able to finally reach the % required that from the vaccine but I think he was 16 before that happened.

    So many children are going to die. I wonder if people who didn’t vote in the US are starting to realise what they’ve done.

    • CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world
      7·
      6 days ago

      and then spread to the world

      But the rest of the world still has the vaccine programs. Very quickly Americans will require proof of vaccination before visiting other countries. While there might be an uptick in cases outside of the US, it will be nothing compared to within.

      • gift_of_gab@lemmy.world
        4·
        5 days ago

        We’re already having a problem with it in Canada, so I’m pretty damn nervous. I have family members who really rely on herd immunity.

        • CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world
          1·
          5 days ago

          Ya, I’m in Canada also. And unfortunately I know more than a couple of people who legit believe vaccines are a scam. But you can find idiots everywhere. I’m honestly not too worried about it here.

          • gift_of_gab@lemmy.world
            2·
            5 days ago

            The issue is, especially for measles, herd immunity. There are some major problems with measles in particular, such as:

            Measles is so contagious that one infected person can spread the respiratory virus to 90% of people in the same room—and it can live in the air for two hours. Often, an infected person doesn’t even know they have measles for several weeks.

            and

            Early symptoms include a fever, cough, runny nose, and red eyes, all of which could be overlooked as part of a common cold. A skin rash doesn’t typically appear until three to five days after the first symptoms appear. Someone with measles is contagious four days before the rash begins and four days after. There is no cure for measles, but if you’ve received the measles vaccine or are immune from a previous infection, consider yourself protected.

            Another major problem is…:

            Depending on the disease, herd immunity may begin to show beneficial effects when just 40% of the population is vaccinated. But for particularly contagious diseases, that threshold is far higher, exceeding 80%. The vaccination rate should be about 96% to achieve herd immunity for measles.

            So we’re going to have immune compromised people getting and then spreading measels. It hits children the hardest, and we’re going to start seeing absolutely heart-breaking headlines about children dying to a completely preventable illness.

            • CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world
              1·
              5 days ago

              Oh, I don’t disagree. Measles is horrible. It’s even been found to reset a person’s immune system. Like erased to newborn status.

              But what I mean about not being too worried, is that I have a modicum amount of faith in fellow Canadians. And once those insane policies start happening in the US, the entire rest of the world is going to place travel restrictions to/from the US.

              • gift_of_gab@lemmy.world
                1·
                5 days ago

                But what I mean about not being too worried, is that I have a modicum amount of faith in fellow Canadians.

                I’m glad you do, and I don’t. If, as polls show he should rather easily, Poilievre wins the next election we’ll have a Prime Minister who marched with the Convoy. In addition, the Federal Conservative party voted in 2022 to not recognize climate change. The idea he’ll place restrictions down is, to my mind, flat out wrong. I think he’ll bow and kowtow to whatever Trump says, and from the amount of ‘Make Canada Great Again’ hats (And the full on MAGA ones as well, which is… bizarre) I see throughout the interior of BC/Alberta, I think there’s some serious indicators the voters will, too. John Rustad almost beat the BC NDP. Polls show 43% of voters in Ontario plan to vote for Doug Ford again.

                I am glad you have faith in Canadians, I just don’t understand where that faith comes from.

                • CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world
                  1·
                  4 days ago

                  I am glad you have faith in Canadians, I just don’t understand where that faith comes from.

                  Mostly from interacting quite a bit with Americans and seeing how much better Canada is by comparison. Don’t get me wrong, things are tending down, but we’ve got quite a ways to go before we get that bad.

  • K3zi4@lemmy.worldEnglish
    19·
    6 days ago

    Pro-life crowd really trying to murder as many children as they can. That’s crazy. Good luck America.

    • rational_lib@lemmy.world
      181·
      6 days ago

      It’s been anticipated throughout the campaign, but kind of got overshadowed by all the other horrible stuff about Trump. RFK Jr. is the biggest anti-vaxxer in the world. Trump ran with him openly to get his cult on his side. This is the obvious result.

  • Treczoks@lemmy.world
    5·
    5 days ago

    Many nearly extinct diseases are already planning their great comeback tour in the US.

    Wonder what will happen when the rest of the world denies entry to Americans for health reasons.

  • ThanksObama@sh.itjust.works
    201·
    7 days ago

    Kill the department of education and force religious curriculum. This whitewashing will hide the history of slavery and make indentured servitude a normal way of life. If you tell them Jesus said it, they will believe it because they can’t read or just don’t care to take the time and do it. Religion is about blind faith in something that may or may not exist. It is a form of control over those with little to lose.

    Ban vaccines so people are sick and weak. Make all other health care unaffordable. Make them starve by inflating prices. Make their bodies weak to avoid physical conflict. They can’t hurt you when they are barely able move or care for themselves.

    End sex education and ban abortion. People are going to get sick and die constantly. You will have a population falloff preventing any increase to your wealth and power if you don’t force them to have kids faster to fill the labor pool.

    Keep their wages low so you can buy out their housing. Force them to be reliant on you to put a roof over their heads. Make them work multiple jobs at little pay just to afford this rental housing. Having no home is a real killer of hope.

    Pit them against each other. Crime is up, must be the illegal immigrants! They are taking all your jobs! That black guy down the street is going to steal you stuff and your women. That Jew works at the bank and is the reason you can’t get a raise or a loan. Your neighbor is your enemy and They will take everything you have if don’t have a gun to protect yourself.

    I’m could keep going down the rabbit hole, but why bother. These assholes want us back in 1800’s where the rich control and own everything.

    Don’t let them fool you. The rich control both parties in this country. It’s just that one side doesn’t give a fuck about being open about what they are doing or public perception.

    I am not condoning violence, but this is where we are going to end up shortly if the rich stay comfortable. Freedom isn’t free, and we are almost out of fight due to apathy. Average people care more about what some ass clown doing in their social feeds than seeing what is about to slap them right in the face.

  • Buffalox@lemmy.world
    15·
    7 days ago

    Thank you USA if you do this, it will most likely show our crazies here in Europe why exactly it is we do it.
    Of course I feel sorry for the children that will get needlessly sick.
    We may see Darwin awards on a national scale for the first 2nd time in history.
    Except this time is worse, because it’s parents killing off their innocent children through stupidity. But A kind of Darwin award nonetheless, since they are ending their genetic line.