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    Here’s the article summary:

    “One time, Brian worked in a field. Luigi on the other hand, had rich parents, just like Osama Bin Laden.”

    I fucking wish I was joking.

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      You do realize this is an opinion column? You can tell by the big letters at the top that spell out OPINION

      EDIT: here’s my “both sides” take on this, you all are as dumb as Fox News viewers. IMO (notice the O stands for opinion, please do not hold Lemmy accountable for what I say) schools need to implement a class on the media. Kids need to learn the difference between news and opinion. Also learn how to identify the source of the news. Also don’t post your nudes on the internet. Things are about to get a lot worse with AI and deep fakes

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        Do you see NYT publishing any opinion pieces to the effect of “The healthcare CEO socially murdered thousands every year and the fact that we don’t have a legal mechanism to deal with them is infinitely more important than a guy who only killed one person”

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        I have an opinion, you’re an ignorant bootlicker! Should that get posted to the frontpage of the times too?

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        Your point? The Editor still has control over what is allowed to be printed/released and associated with their name.

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        The great thing about opinions? They typically spur opinions from other people. And those opinions spur more opinions.

        What I’m trying to say is that the article being an opinion does not in any way negate the comment you’re being dismissive of, which in itself is an opinion too. That’s kind of how conversations happen.

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        Nobody responding to you was unaware this was an opinion piece.

        Reread the responses and try again.

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    Here’s the article, for anyone interested.

    It basically boils down to: Brian Thompson grew up in a working class family in Iowa, while Luigi Mangione came from wealth and went to private schools. He compares Mangione to Osama bin Laden, and other “Angry rich kids jacked up on radical, nihilistic philosophies,” who “cause a lot of harm, not least to the working-class folks whose interests they pretend to champion.”

    The author then mentions some polling that says people like their health insurance provider, actually. And then finally he says this:

    Thompson’s life may have been cut brutally short, but it will remain a model for how a talented and determined man from humble roots can still rise to the top of corporate life without the benefit of rich parents and an Ivy League degree.

    Without a stitch of irony. Thompson may have come from working class roots, but that ain’t where he ended up. So if it’s ok to become rich, but it’s not ok to be born rich, then I guess this author supports a 100% inherence tax? Yeah, somehow I doubt it.

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      People aren’t responsible for how they’re born. Being born into a family that’s benefitted from human suffering is out of their control.

      Choosing to harm people in order to join a class of societal leeches is different.

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        Staying in that position of privilege you were born into is also a choice.

        (I agree with you while people are young though)

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      Came from working class roots…and then decided that those same people get to die so he can make a buck.

      Insurance companies are run by sociopaths

      I don’t give a fuck where someone came from, only where they CHOSE to end up.

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    The first step to writing an article like this is to bend your spine backwards until your head is inside your asshole.

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    The author, Bret Stephens, inherited his fortune from a chemical company his parents built. Just for context as to why he defends a sleezy multi-millionaire

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    Just cancelled my subscription, absolutely disgusting seeing this on the front page. Is there any publication left not bought and paid for by our corporate overlords?

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      I can’t vouch for their opinions, because I haven’t read it enough, but The Guardian doesn’t have shareholders and has editorial freedom

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    It’s a Bret Stephens opinion piece. He’s the token conservative of the column. He is literally 1 out of 18 other columnists. He doesn’t even remotely represent The Times as a whole. This declaration is almost as dumb as Bret…almost.

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    Angry rich kids jacked up on radical, nihilistic philosophies can cause a lot of harm, not least to the working-class folks whose interests they pretend to champion.

    Or angry, greedy rich people jacked up on conservatism.

    I was hoping it was going to be a satire OpEd, but nope. Mangione is just a disaffected radical rich kid he compares to Bin Laden and other terrorists who came from well-off families. The writer stops at Thompson’s early normal life and completely disregards the health insurance industry’s problems, which Thompson’s company was a major contributor, claims people are mostly happy with their insurance while the study has no “would you prefer to pay less and get the same service for single-payer care” option. It’s basically “do you like your expensive care you have little/no choice about?”

    Dude wrote an anti-populist article to be inflammatory and told people to shut up because they like their insurance overlords.

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    The New York Times has been pure shit since the W years when they pushed Iraq war propaganda.

    Trump is an evil moron, but he’s right about one thing, our media is full of shills and liars.

    The crazy part is they are lying and shilling for the right, while being called “leftist”, it’s a fantastic lie that has been propagated.

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    Bret Stephens, the author, is not telling the whole story and using the omissions to spin a story of ‘most Americans are happy with the system.’ This [expletive] says the below to defend against the united anger at the health insurance industry

    As for the suggestion that Thompson’s murder should be an occasion to discuss America’s supposed rage at private health insurers, it’s worth pointing out that a 2023 survey from the nonpartisan health policy research institute KFF found that 81 percent of insured adults gave their health insurance plans a rating of “excellent” or “good.” Even a majority of those who say their health is “fair” or “poor” still broadly like their health insurance. No industry is perfect — nor is any health care model — and insurance companies make terrible calls all the time in the interest of cost savings. But the idea that those companies represent a unique evil in American life is divorced from the experience of most of their customers.

    This [expletive] looked at the report’s top and only positive point and ignored the rest. The next very next point is

    • Despite rating their insurance positively, most insured adults report experiencing problems using their health coverage; people in poorer health are more likely to report problems. A majority of insured adults (58%) say they have experienced a problem using their health insurance in the past 12 months – such as denied claims, provider network problems, and pre-authorization problems.

    Here are the other points on the report:

    • Nearly half of insured adults who had insurance problems were unable to satisfactorily resolve them, with some reporting serious consequences. Half of consumers with insurance problems say their problem was resolved to their satisfaction.
    • Affordability of premiums and out-of-pocket costs are a concern, particularly for those with private health coverage, and for some, contributed to not getting care. About half of adults with Marketplace plans (55%) or ESI (46%) rate their insurance negatively when it comes to premiums, compared to 27% of people with Medicare and 10% of Medicaid enrollees. Four-in-ten insured adults say they skipped or delayed some type of care in the past year due to cost. One in six insured adults (16%), including larger shares of those at lower income levels, say they had problems paying medical bills in the past year.
    • Insured adults overwhelmingly support public policies to make insurance simpler to understand and to help them avoid or resolve insurance problems. About nine in ten say they support requirements on insurers to maintain accurate and up-to-date provider directories, provide simpler, easier-to read EOBs, disclose their claims denial rates to regulators and the public, and provide in advance, upon request, information about whether care is covered and their out-of-pocket cost liability.

    [Expletive] this disingenuously written story, [expletive] Bret Stephen for not telling the whole story, and [expletive] the New York Times for time after time publishing BS and propaganda that sets us all back.

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      Your nanny state instance admins redact naughty words to “[expletive]” before it federates out. It’s pretty funny when you use it a bunch of times to help get your anger across.

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        It does? Hahahaha, that’s great, I’m trying to swear less in general, but good to know I didn’t have to redact myself on here. I’m curious to see what happens.

        Shit fuck.

        Edit: did the instance filter it? It’s still showing up for me.

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      I’m sure many are happy with their plans given that they have no real choice.

      I’d be happier with a plan that punches me in the face twice a year rather than one that punches me monthly.

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        Yeah, people rating their insurance as “excellent” obviously comes with the implied “compared to other US healthcare insurance options,” if you read the rest of it or spend even 5 seconds thinking about it.