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Why would people vote for Republican Lite, if there’s the real deal? At least now we know chasing these Republican votes was foolish and that we should campaign on universal leftist points. Right? Right???
No, it’s the voters who are wrong. FPTP requires us to vote for people in favor of FPTP.
I WAS going to do SO MUCH organizing this time… if Harris had bought us time. But alas, all strikes will go to Trump’s desk now so why even bother. /s
It’s nice to see people discussing the voting system. Nows the time to talk about opening up the electoral system to 3rd parties right for sure.
If you get the chance, swing by my ask lemmy post to discuss how you and the people of your state can pressure your leaders into implementing electoral reform.
FPTP requires us to vote for people in favor of FPTP.
Even the referendum efforts slammed into a brick wall this year
RCV failed in Missouri, Colorado, Arizona, Nevada, Oregon, Idaho, and (likely) in Alaska. People don’t like it as a system.
Good point. Now I’m a different kind of worried. 💀
I’m sure some of these strawman exist in a field somewhere keeping the crows away.
Democrats need to get rid of First Past The Post voting in the blue states they control. Time to admit they need help and shouldn’t be going alone against the republicans
More democracy. More chances to defeat the republicans. More people engaged and involved in the political process.
More people voting = more votes for democrats. More chances of republicans electing a more moderate candidate.Electoral reform is an absolute win for the people of this country. Except for the legacy poltical parties. They will unfortunately have to compete for your vote. If they are unable to stay relevant, that’s on them for becoming weak and frail using FPTP as a crutch.
Why would the democratic party want democracy? The people in positions of power in the party got a lot of great fundraising this cycle, and they’ll be able to use the threat of this incoming disaster to raise even more!
Sadly people voted against Ranked-Choice Voting in multiple states this year also, so good luck making any progress with regards to that…
Getting rid of FPTP in only blue states will make it more likely for the Republicans to win overall, as they will take all of the FPTP red state and some of the now proportional blue states
Which part is the humor part?
I mean in all fairness we did tell them that exactly this would happen. It’s their open damn fault they, and the rest of us, now have to try and survive in the still-rotting corpse of democracy.
Edit, add: Their self centered, short-sighted voting choice has screwed over everybody else along with them. I’m not going to feel particularly bad about the hardships they’ve invited on themselves, whether through stupidity, logical fallacy, ignorance, emotional thinking, or (in the case of actual T supporters) actually believing blatantly stupid bullshit.
Hell, the only thing Harris voters have left is the bitter pleasure of watching the Trump voters and non-voters suffer with us. I will not extend an ounce of anything but schadenfreude their way for any bit of pain they feel as a consequence of their own actions.
Eh, never said I couldn’t wait, just that any sympathy I have is gone. Actions have consequences and I’m not gonna feel bad for people who face them and voted for them. Or earned them by not voting.
classic neoliberal compassion
At some point, “They want to see us literally dead and we just want them to have healthcare” has to become, “Well, at least they’ll die, too.”
Sure is going to be difficult to enact change when met with a regime that wants to regress. Hope that y’all who didn’t vote are happy with the outcome cause I sure ain’t.
ignores core voter issues
spends entire campaign talking about how opponent is worse
Tells entire uncommitted voter base to fuck off
“Why did the voters do this to us? Those must be 10 million russian/maga/chinese shills in disguise.”
Clearly it’s the voters who are wrong.
In the context of people that claimed to care about the genocide, yep - the voters were undeniably wrong. That doesn’t make the Democrats any more right.
https://youtu.be/wCl33v5969M?si=GKzEjX4q2RwrINj9
A great video talking about that thought
I would tell the entire “uncommitted” voter base to fuck off. Here, I’ll do it again… “fffffuck off”.
The main things these clowns are uncommitted to are democracy, rule of law, secular society, the constitution, justice, etc.
And now, unsurprisingly, they have helped enable a fascist authoritarian takeover of the United States by taking our democracy hostage in the name of some stupid ~1500 year old holy war and a shitty piece of land governed and funded by the worst possible people. Is that good politics? Is that supposed to win people over?
So, in return, I’m now “uncommitted” to giving half a shit what happens to them, here or abroad. The people who didn’t vote to stop Trump are to blame for what happens next.
“I only care what happens to me in my country and give no shits about what happens to the rest of humanity that is brought about by what my country does. They can kill all those people so long as I have the freedoms those people are fighting for. Oh and I hope I can buy eggs for not an expensive price while my country is intrinsic in starving another population for no good reason”
- If you had any valid point to criticize what I said you wouldn’t have to make shit up and put words in my mouth.
- Neither of my countries created the situation in Israel/Palestine or the war that has been waging more than 50 years before I was born.
- The Palestinians aren’t fighting for “freedoms” any more than the Israelis are, and both countries were a fabrication of the United Kingdom and the League of Nations. Netenyahu and Hamas were both fighting for conquest and genocide against the other side, in the latest chapter of a holy war over delusion religious cults that have nothing to do with me or my life. I believe in a peaceful two-state solution, it’s the Israelis and the Palestinians who unfortunately don’t.
- The Unites States under Biden delivered more aide, food, and civilian resources into Gaza than any other country or organization on Earth. Is that our responsibility? Do we really have a duty to feed the world when we have people living homeless, starving and diseased in our own country? I really don’t think so. Palestine has powerful allies in the region and abroad that they can beg from.
- I would argue that it is the Gaza-fanatics who put humanity and the world in danger when you look at the existential threats we face from the prospects of World War 3 and climate change, these people held American democracy and hegemony hostage in the name of their pet project which has little-to-nothing to do with America in the first place.
Ultimately you can try to blame me all you want, but I did my part to help Gaza by voting for the person who was most likely to handle the situation the nuance and compassion required. Likewise, I voted against the person who will obviously give Netanyahu carte blanche to do whatever the fuck he wants with Palestine and the Palestinians. I’ll continue to vote for the better candidate and against the worst one, will you?
Surely, Doland J Trump and his administration will fix all these problems and will not make them worse.
Good thing I didn’t vote so that this stable genius with a traceable track record can take office and lead the World in peace and justice.
Right? That’s what you’re saying?
No that’s not what I said at all I didn’t even mention trump but sure
Ah right, didn’t mention Trump but commented in a thread on a meme about Trump, replied to a comment regarding voters abstaining from voting in a US election in which Trump won, and made sarcastic “high ground” comment. Are you lost?
You do not need to say that. They already in fact fucked off because the DNC told them to. And did not vote for Harris.
I hope you are very happy. The DNC threw away those free votes.
https://youtu.be/wCl33v5969M?si=GKzEjX4q2RwrINj9
Here’s a 33 minute video explaining the tactics the right uses and the failures the Dems have in dealing with them. Please watch it. It is very interesting to learn about and too complicated to be summed up in a Lemmy comment.
Wasn’t that the point? They knew both sides would be pro Israel and sent a message that without more Palestinian support, the Dems wouldn’t just get their vote.
It worked, the Dems have been nothing but shocked and aghast at the outcome. Now the pro- Palestine base are hoping the Dems turn against Israel for the 2026 election to win back their vote.
…the Dems won’t, by the way. They might pay more lip service to it, but they’ll never be anti-Israel.
Ha ha ha ha! You think there’s still going to be a Palestine in 2028! Huckster McJesusBitch is going to help Bibi complete the genocide.
Dems aren’t shocked. Dem voters were repeating at every opportunity that things would be worse under Trump.
I think we’re just suspect of people who say they’re pro Palestine and then act to worsen their situation.
You showed the Dems tho!
Oh, I voted. For Trump. Im a general independent and vote based on my morals. The Dems were certainly shown this time around, I agree. :)
You will see what the point is when Israel permanently occupies the West Bank and Gaza and starts the real genocide.
Gaza has already been flattened and its people have been psychologically tortured into being unable to fight back.
This genocide is already well underway, not “about to start”.
Well yes. Everyone knew trump was going to be worse for the Palestinians. Except for the people who wanted you to hate the democrats more and not vote and wanted you to ignore that.
This post doesnt belong in political humor.
I find it hard to believe people making those memes are dumb enough to believe the underlying message. The pro-palestinian activist crowd was way too small to change anything in this massive loss, and I’d wager more of them percentage wise went and voted for Harris after all, than registered Dems did. Those people are politicaly concious enough to care about foreign politics, something vast majority of the voter base doesn’t care in the slightest. I’ve seen you fuckers shadow boxing with some theoretical far left cabal, both apparently major in terms of being blamed for diverting voters and insignificant in terms of being worth listening to according to your propaganda, and I’ve barely ever seen anyone from the left saying that they wont vote for Harris. You’ve spammed those memes about not voting for Harris being a vote for Trump and pointed fingers at abstract pro-palestinian crowd, despite knowing fully well those people were going - and did, by the way - to vote for Harris. Dems lost not because of the politicaly engaged people on the left, you morons. Dems lost because they completely failed to engage people that weren’t interested in politics. They completely capitulated the border issue to the GOP, allowing to full blown fascist narrative to emerge - something that wouldn’t have happend it they pushed back instead. They paraded the animated corpse of Biden for far too long, going they could get away with it somehow. Completely sanitized Harris and muzzled Walz after their initial pro-workers and anti-corporate messages. They tried to shame people into voting instead of engaging them, shitted on the open primary, silenced arab communities, and then got confused when people not caring about politics too much failed to show up.
You’re trying to show how much smarter you are than the anti-genociders with those memes, but you’re completely missing the mark. This outcome is exactly what those people warned you about. People are mostly disengaged from the politics, and when they vote, they vote based on vibes. The year long support for genocide, broadcasted on every station and in many speeches, is a fucking vibe killer for many voters. The Dems had atrocious vibes all the way back from the october 7. They should have never give a green light for killing the civilians, on either side. They fumbled and refused to acknowledge it.
But yeah, Gaza is a relatively minor issue to the voters, seeing as people aren’t interested in foreign politics at all. The reason why Dems lost was a sum of many other fuck ups as well. They barely even talked about Biden being pro union and walking the picket line. They barely pushed against the inflation lies. They laser focused being anti-immigration and calling Trump (deserved, sure) names. They’re 100% guilty of letting Trump rule now, seeing how bad Trump campaign was. And seeing how your current propaganda looks like, it seems like you’re not going to learn any lessons from this loss, assuming you guys ever get to vote again.
Wow a giant wall of text filled with shitty excuses. Not sure what else I expected from the Pro Palestinian anti Harris crowd.
May Palestine receive the fruits of your labor.
Excuses? I’m not even from the USA. That’s a critique. And you seem to miss the point of it entirely.
Aye, you’re not wrong. The meme is still accurate though.
It’s not, pro-palestine crowd in USA is relatively politicaly concious, so you would be hard pressed to find people from that group that didn’t vote for Harris. Idea that people caring about Gaza in USA would be unaware that Trump is worse pick is flawed, as it would require both awareness about foreign affairs and USA capabilities in terms of negotiating the ceasefire, and also being completely unaware of Trump attitude towards Palestine and Israel. Also, anyone caring enough to protest most likely cares enough to vote, so those people weren’t the issue.
Dems fucked up their campaign big time and now they’re looking for scapegoats to blame, unable to admit to their many flaws that led to this result.
Yeah it is
It’s really sad. It’s really sad that reality has no effect on the people.
Love the font. Reminds me of Rexlia, but it’s slightly different.
There weren’t enough third party votes to swing the election. Trump won the popular vote. Stop blaming leftist for the country moving right. It’s stupid.
People posting the meme wish to say genocide is only alright if it is exported.
The real question is if both party wishes to have death at destruction at Palestine homes why would they not wish the same to its exporter?
