Yes, but what about [single political issue here that Trump is as bad or worse on]?
Clearly this means we should vote for [candidate least likely to win but most likely to split the vote of the non-fascist party]!
“As an upper-middle-class white male, I just don’t like politics, so I don’t vote.”
Fuck you, you selfish little pricks.
I vote now.
I don’t think I was selfish before … Just ignorant and/or sheltered.
I don’t think I disagree with your point, but the messaging is unlikely to convert many non voters.
tbf, if they’re on a politics com and bragging about not voting, chances are that they’re pretty far from where you were at if you were just ignorant and/or sheltered.
Well… You’re not wrong.
I’m just yelling at the choir on Lemmy, I believe. With my actual friends, especially married ones with daughters who say this stuff, I approach it differently. “You always tell me you disdain deadbeat dads, but not voting is another form of failing your daughter. You should be a champion for her rights man, not sitting on the sidelines trying to play nice with ‘both sides.’”
“You see, if fascism wins, then socialism will magically win next. It’s a law of nature, like a pendulum. It Is Known.”
0 felony convictions.
I’m pretty sure she was responsible for convicting felons.
Oh she made people felons alright
Mostly black people.
Not like there’s an unclear choice when you Americans vote soon, but pleas don’t forget that part. Most two party elections are choosing the lesser of two shit options.
This is a real hard chart to follow… Are both sides the same??
“Someone that clean has to be dirty”
— maga, probably
I have literally been told that, about myself, by conservatives. This was while I was in The Navy, and holding a Top Secret security clearance. They didn’t approve of their daughter dating a “hippie.” (That was their descriptor not mine.)
They didn’t like having hippie semen in their daughter, who could blame them?
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And yet, here we are. How is this even a choice?
Because nothing is real, everything is a game, and us poors are just pieces.
Her unwaivering commitment to genocide and corporate donors, flip flopping on major issues and her gratification of Dick Cheney
Everything you said is Donald trump. And he’s a convicted rapist, insurrectionist, conman, serial liar and everything else in the image. Again, how is this even a choice? Or do you consider chocolate and shit equivalent?
Okay. No where did I ever say I was voting Trump. It’s just feeble minds can’t imagine any other scenario.
If Harris started saying “from the river to the sea” at her rallies, she’d drop 10 points overnight. If she was still for a ban on fraking, she’d lose Pennsylvania by 10 points. Cheney is really a waste of energy but a non- factor.
Don’t say we didn’t warn you.
https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/30/election-michigan-harris
If she loses she’ll just blame everyone but herself like Democrats always do. Obama is already trying to blame black men saying they are chauvinistic.
And she’d drop 5 more points in Michigan if she started the “from river to the sea” shit from her base that she would lose, even with 100% of the state’s Muslims supporting her.
Why is the only other logical choice in your mind that Kamala must either support genocide or spread antisemtic statements? How in the world do you see that as the only two logical options?
I don’t. I want us to cease funding offensive weapons, while still helping to fund the Iron Dome and to defend Isreal if they are attacked. That’d lose her 20 points in the polls because being nuanced would just piss off both sides, especially moderates. She would need real political capital to do so, and I hope that’s her play once elected. It’s obvious she can’t show her cards on this till elected. Do I like the country’s political balls being held by AIPAC? No. But it’s the reality we live in.
A majority of Americans disapprove of Israeli action in Gaza:
https://news.gallup.com/poll/642695/majority-disapprove-israeli-action-gaza.aspx
I’m not sure where this narrative is coming from that it is an unpopular opinion to stand up to Netanyahu.
Being against genocide in Gaza is a populist statement and position. So are things like sensible regulations and remembering what happened in Flint, Michigan. This whole, “you must either be for genocide or an antisemite” claim you got going on isn’t a good look.
And no one has done the polling in the Harris camp… the first priority is to protect our democracy. We won’t be able to do anything about helping the Palestinians if Trump is elected. But I am sure you’ll be happy you stuck to your moral high horse when millions of undocumented are put in camps themselves if the Felon wins along with when so many other atrocities start up here on US soil. Good for you!
She’s now losing in Michigan. I’m not sure what evidence you need before the election. I’m not really enthusiastic about a candidate that needs to wait to see how supporting genocide affects her electability.
Another thing that gets no attention is that she is one of the few members of congress who didn’t invest in individual stocks but just does index funds to prevent conflicts of interest/insider trading. I really wish democrats would do a better job of contrasting Trump’s corruption with theirs but then again I guess they gotta pick something and run with it.
News Flash, there are other elections that happen in the US every year that are more influential and important for national issues than the presidency.
Maybe take your weird hatred of the failure-of-the-democratic-party-not-being-as-progressive-as-you-want energy and focus that on:
- getting local city councilors, mayors and county clerks etc. elected who represent your political ideology,
- getting state legislators and other officials elected who represent your political ideology,
- getting judges elected (where applicable) who understand the codified and written law and are willing to execute it as written,
- maybe even (SHOCK) getting congresspeople elected who match your political ideology.
I know this might be hard to understand, but there are a myriad of elected officials that comprise our federal system and focusing on THE PRESIDENCY alone will never make anything meaningfully change.
And for anyone who skews even the least bit toward NOT WANTING FACISM to take hold in this country of The United States of America, just fucking vote for Kamala Harris you stupid asshole.
I first read this as a bulleted list and got confused.
Sounds boring.
Personally, I think the world needs major powers with a bit more crazy to 'em. You really wanna live in a world where you go to bed and wake up to the same thing? Selling nuclear secrets is the spice of life.
Edit: Really? I honestly thought I was laying the sarcasm on a little thick. Whatever. lol
America already sends 20+ billion thank you checks for killing tens of thousands of women & children. What more could you ask for?
Are you not fucking tired? Imagine shilling this hard without even an ounce of thought.
0 apologies for convicting drug users into forced labour.
I’m sure the realistic alternative would be much better on this issue, especially considering what he did about the Central Park 5 as a private citizen
$100 billion in weapons for Israel to keep the genocide going
Trump wants to end the Palestine resistance the same way he wants to end the Ukrainian resistance.
Doesn’t change the truth that Kamala is in power right now and she is currently using that power to make sure a genocidal leader keeps getting everything he needs to continue committing genocide.
Stop pretending that the candidate you’re endorsing isn’t a monster
She is Vice-President and does not make foreign policy at the moment and has been quite specific about protecting both Palestinian and Israeli lives as her position on the issue.
Her current role is advisory, the President decides actual policy and her’s as President would be exponentially better than Trump’s.
She has repeatedly said that she would not put conditions on arms to Israel and that her position is the exact same as Biden’s.
I don’t care that her position is merely advisory, she’s in a position of power and she’s using that position to run defense for a genocidal regime.
With power comes responsibility and I’m holding her responsible for what she does with her power
I think you need to read the Constitution. Especially the part about vice presidential powers.
Gonna be honest here.
I do not give a shit. Not a single shit.
Wow. Almost a year of news about the ongoing genocide could make someone numb but your absolute lack of care really shows the kind of person you are.
Truly revolting
You don’t care what your taxes are spent on? Weird
why has this sub become a dumping ground for liberal bullshit
trump sucks a lot but that doesn’t make her a good person
the lesser evil is still evil
Yeah where are Kamala’s emails??
What evil has she done?
I don’t agree with everything that she is doing and has done but I believe that there’s a certain amount of concessions that happen in politics.
She’s absolutely the obvious choice right now and I’ll reserve not liking what she does based on what decisions she makes as president.
supporting a genocide for example
She supports a ceasefire, Biden is the one sending 100 troops and a THAAD system, and billions of dollars in weapons and aid.
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Isn’t the DA position and elected one? How do you blow someone to get a position that the populace of San Francisco vote on?
They have no clue what they’re talking about.
Cool. Next tell us about how the vaccines will kill billions!
Fuck off with that misogyny, it’s 2024.
