• randon31415@lemmy.world
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    Obama won his senate seat because his opponent had an affair. Everyone said he was too young, but then he went on to beat Hillary and McCain.

    Bill Clinton won the democratic primary because everyone thought Heart was going to win, then HE had an affair. Everyone said he was too young, but then he went on to beat Bush.

    Al Gore, John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, and Joe Biden won their primary because “IT WAS THEIR TURN”. Biden only won because Republican rigged it to suppress mail in voting, but that suppressed the wrong group in the wake of COVID. I think we all have our theories on Harris. My point: I think it is time for someone that isn’t “THEIR TURN” to become our next nominee.

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      Al Gore is not like the others. Yes you might say he became the nominee because it was his turn. But, he also had extremely good policy ideas that were very different from “not being Trump “.

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    All of this is just a distraction anyway. It’s rich vs poor always has been. We have a huge group of people that should really be allies but are brainwashed against their own interests. It’s easy to say they’re on the wrong side but we should really be looking to mend the divide in ways that we can rather than further it by stating how morally superior we are.

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      This rich vs. poor thing would be a hell of a lot more believable if there weren’t so many poor people who were gigantic fucking bigots.

      How do you mend a divide between people who exist and people who hate their existence?

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      Agreed. It’s uncanny how no news source wants to call out the class divide and instead focuses on the partisan divide

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    The Democrats are never able to pass these things while they’re in power, though.

    Like yes there is Obamacare and some loan forgiveness, but it’s drops in the bucket compared to what Republicans are cooking up with Project 2025

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    Nah Lemmy would be bitching about Biden not cancelling student loan debt despite Trump judges being the ones blocking it.

    “Status quo” wasn’t enough to get people off their asses. Well, we’re about to see the opposite of that. Congrats.

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    Nah I think a lot of people would also be gloating, like obviously fuck trump, Kamala would have been better, they’d be gloating too

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      You still don’t understand that this isn’t about left vs right, Red vs Blue, old Vs young, black Vs white.

      While there are still people who are dying or just existing just to prop up the wealth of a few people then we all lose.

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        I think you’ve misunderstood me because I agree with you 100% on that. Though I would argue that that IS left vs right.

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    I don’t know why you would celebrate something that was never promised and unlikely to happen.

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      This is literally provably false. Biden, for all his faults, pushed through a student loan cancelation program.

      It was blocked by the Trump controlled Supreme Court.

      Elections matter. If Trump didn’t put 3 Supreme Court justices in place to block it people would be better off.

      Don’t both sides this. It might make you feel smart but it results in harm.

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      Lol except the dems literally gave the ACA and student debt forgiveness. Want more? Then give them more victories. They need all 3 house of representatives, Senate, and presidency to pass things and they’ve had that for only 6 years of the last 44 years.

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        The heritage foundation made the ACA for mitt Romney when he was governor of mass. It’s a right wing piece of legislation that was a handout to insurance companies and not universal healthcare.

        Student debt? They forgave what, 1% of the absolute worst loans from schools that no longer exist and were committing fraud? Or are you talking about the forgiveness program that denies 99% of applicants?

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          Want more? Then give them more victories. They need all 3 house of representatives, Senate, and presidency to pass things and they’ve had that for only 6 years of the last 44 years.

          And so what’s his name can’t water it down. *Lieberman.

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              There’s ALWAYS a spoiler.

              Hmmmmmmmmmm how about trying? Nahhhhh you don’t wanna, you just want to say “Dems bad”.

              Not to mention this gap in logic. If it was a real spoiler, what would have happened? It wouldn’t have passed at all. But it did, watered down. So not a spoiler, pretty much by definition. It’s a watering down, by definition.

              And there wasn’t a spoiler at all for debt forgiveness. It was a packed court. So how about voting so that the GOP can’t pack the court? Another gap in logic.

              And all the things that DID pass lol. Green energy, EVs, CHIPS, PACT, etc, etc, etc. No spoiler there. Another gap in logic.

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                Oh great, a health insurance bill that doesn’t do shit except charge insane premiums and not provide healthcare. And a handout to insurance companies. Great job democrats. Your easily fooled rubes of the blue MAGA persuasion think you’re the best thing since sliced bread…

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                  And we’re back to:

                  Want more? Then give them more victories. They need all 3 house of representatives, Senate, and presidency to pass things and they’ve had that for only 6 years of the last 44 years.

                  And so what’s his name can’t water it down. *Lieberman.

                  Taking a look at your profile, yikes. I have no idea how you aren’t banned yet. Ciao.

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          Student loans forgiven: $175 Billion

          Student loans that would have been forgiven without R fuckery: $430 Billion

          Total federal student loan debt: $1.6 Trillion