• corroded@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    I truly believe that these license plates actually work but not for the reason these idiots think.

    As soon as a cop sees your plate, they instantly know you’re driving an unregistered vehicle, probably dont have a license, insane, looking for an argument, and impervious to reason. Good chance they’re going to say “Fuck it, I’m not dealing with this crap today.”

    • bassomitron@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      3 months ago

      This is probably the correct answer. I drove around without a front license plate for over 4 years (my state requires front and back) since my car didn’t come with screws for a front mount. It was one of those things I put on my to-do list but never got around to and eventually just kind of forgot about it.

      Anyway, I live close to a couple of police stations (I live near a border to another city, so my city and the next city have PDs within a couple miles of each other) and never got pulled over. Hell, I have even went through several traffic stops over the years and none of them ever said a word to me. A few months ago I finally ran into a cop that actually gave a shit and pulled me over. He was obviously a new recruit, as he was very young and did everything very by-the-book. I got a warning and the next day I ordered a mount for my other plate, but I was just amazed I’d gone so many years without any cop caring. I figured it was because most cops just can’t be bothered to care about small shit like that. Though, if I was a minority (I’m in the US), it’d probably be a different story.

      • TechNerdWizard42@lemmy.world
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        3 months ago

        If you were a minority you’d be pulled over every day, probably each way to and from work with that as the reason. Given expensive fix-it tickets each time. And most likely had your vehicle searched or impounded for multiple failures to comply. Not being hyperbolic, this has happened often. One guy it was 1 day, 3 tickets and then impound because he failed to fix the issue in a day.

        When the rules are applied on a whim by whatever person with authority feels like, you live in tyranny. That isn’t an orderly system. It is a failed nation.

  • saltesc@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    I assume they’re travelling on “private” roads and not trespassing on state property. Or they’re an idiot.

    • Chip_Rat@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      So this was percolating in my brain for awhile, these dense people have a hard time understanding the law but it’s very easy to explain even if they magically are a sovereign citizen which means they don’t have to do all the regular things humans do in a society.

      If you are driving on publicly funded roads that you didn’t contribute to with taxes and did not licence your vehicle to drive on, you are just trespassing. Your options are: pay the fee/fine for trespassing, and then stay off the roads you don’t own, or buy the “ticket” (pay your taxes and ensure your vehicle is licenced.).

      What’s the response to that? Like I know they think a lot of weird and crazy stuff, but I get why they don’t understand some of it, bevause it is complicated and based on law and generations of social contracts. This isn’t that. This is “you can’t trespass, no matter how sovereign you are.”

      • InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works@sh.itjust.works
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        3 months ago

        BuyinG StAmpS is JusTliKe paYing taXes to the shaDdow gov acTuallY ran bYUSPS.

        What you do is you print NO POSTAGE NECESSARY IF MAILED IN THE UNITED STATES and glue that, not tape, it needs to be on the same corner as the moon position when facing north.
        Then somewhere on it, scribble in Sharpie the following Stat. st Law, Ch. 71, Sec. 23, circle that 3 times, not 2. Use red.
        I also got mailing supplies including pre-made stamp-like sovereign labels you can buy, Bill’s been using them for years without issues, ask him.

        Still probably too coherent, mb.

    • Lumisal@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      Ok, but you got me thinking it’d probably be possible to trick them into being pro privacy and green tech by using an “off the government grid” angle.

  • Granite@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    I saw my first SovCit plate in the wild yesterday! They also had a tinted cover over it, I assume to hide it. Such a lack of confidence, tsk tsk.

      • toasteecup@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        3 months ago

        I also don’t seem to have them near me, but I might start carrying a hammer to break the tint of I see one. Sovereign citizens can get fucked and pay taxes.

      • Granite@lemmy.world
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        3 months ago

        Yeah, debated trying to get a pic, but never had a chance given that we were both driving and I didn’t want to get too close to a truck that I was sure wouldn’t have insurance.

    • Psythik@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      I don’t get why they advertise themselves. You’ll blend in a lot more if you use a normal plate and simply never renew the registration. You rarely get pulled over for this and ticket is so minor that it’s easy to just ignore it and never show up to court. But more often than not the cop will just tell you to renew it ASAP and send you on your way. Be polite, apologize, don’t argue/mention any sovern citizen bullshit, and most importantly: don’t be brown-skinned, and usually they’ll just let you go without even so much of a warning.

        • Psythik@lemmy.world
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          3 months ago

          Police don’t keep meticulous records like this. Hell, they don’t even know what the other departments are doing. Even in the internet era, police databases are shockingly independent from earth other. So long as you’re not a felon, you can get away with a lot of shit. Ask me how I know.

  • OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Sovereign Citizens are the absolute most annoying people. You want to deport anyone? Start with them. Keep the migrants & refugees who want to be here. Send to Senegal.

    • wjrii@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      3 months ago

      As always, I welcome any corrections from those who think they can keep this shit straighter than I can, but the gist as I understand it is this:

      Many of them actually believe the entire legal regime of the united states is actually a function of private commercial law and that the “real” government is a sort of suppressed by a corporation that was created under its rules, so if they can successfully opt out of their involuntary commercial relationship with the “Corporation” that they are not bound by its rules, including taxes. Because they’re so very smart, they understand you have to be careful, so making sure that you explain that you’re not engaging in “Commerce” as the corporation’s founding document states is important so they don’t rope you back in. The US Constitution gives the federal government the right to govern “Interstate Commerce” so in the spirit of the law being a series of magical incantations, they want to keep consistent. The various US states are either in league with, or under the thumb of, the “corporation.”

  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    3 months ago

    I don’t know which one of these people I like less. The person with this stupid plate. The person who would rat them out on social media. Or the person who would call the fucking cops.