• Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world
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    “I’m going to create these wellness farms where they can go to get off of illegal drugs, off of opiates, but also illegal drugs, other psychiatric drugs, if they want to, to get off of SSRIs, to get off of benzos, to get off of Adderall, and to spend time as much time as they need — three or four years if they need it — to learn to get reparented, to reconnect with communities,” he said during the broadcast.

    Isn’t it neat how he mixes in prescribed medical treatments? Neato.

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      He’s a big believer in the whole “keeping people on drugs isn’t the fix” kind of thinking. It’s short-sighted and ignorant of the fact that a lot of people on them have a net benefit to function in society.

      What he is proposing is something far more stupid akin to “Well look at me. I’ve never needed these drugs, and I’m totally fine. WTF, people?”

      If you want a country that is doing the proper work to stop jumping to long-term prescriptions as problem solvers, I’m all for that. DO NOT confuse that with these dumb shit he’s suggesting though.

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        What he is proposing is something far more stupid akin to “Well look at me. I’ve never needed these drugs, and I’m totally fine. WTF, people?”

        Except he looks like a reanimated corpse and sounds like a frog that died on a log in a bog.

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        Yeah, you want to start with making it so I can live a full life without Adderall? Awesome, I’m all for it, start by building a robust and accessible public transportation network that allows for intercity and intracity transportation conveniently at all times of day, because trust me you do not want be driving unmedicated. Then you’re gonna need to solve the unable to maintain employment without meds problem. And even if you do all that I’ll fight you taking my meds tooth and nail because I feel seriously disabled without them and would much rather go without hearing aids than without adderall.

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      I sure hope there will be people there that know what they’re doing. Benzo withdrawal is no joke and can lead to seizures.

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    So they’re just already saying the “camps” part out loud, eh? I guess when you have Hitler’s playbook, you can move faster than Hitler did.

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    And a tax on cannabis sales would fund these farms, he proposed.

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but… is he really suggesting a federal tax on a federally illegal substance?

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      You hope he is just being clever and indirectly talking about legalizing cannabis, but you know that in reality he is just so incompetent that he has no idea what he is talking about.

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        but you know that in reality he is just so incompetent that he has no idea what he is talking about.

        The reality is he’s very well educated and an overall intelligent person. His views are pure malice, not stupidity. Don’t be a dunce and underestimate him

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      Correct me if I’m wrong but are you pretending you don’t know the war on drugs to be utter bullshit that’s damaging society?

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        The war on drugs is bullshit, but the fact is that the US government still considers it a schedule 1 drug. My point is that they shouldn’t be able to tax it while still pretending that it should be illegal.

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          Well no the hypocrisy shouldn’t exist, that I agree with.

          But I’d rather have taxation from cannabis while enduring the annoying hypocrisy rather than not have taxed cannabis and still listen to the hypocrisy.

          The legal situation in the US is kinda weird. You can go to a legal shop to buy legal weed and when you walk out a federal agent might arrest you.

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    This is part of some rural grift facilities which probably started with “trouble teens”. In recent years I’ve seen reports of these “farms” for “distressed” women. It’s usually a place with Ranch in the name. Example: https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2021/11/18/the-christian-maternity-ranch-in-texas-is-a-disaster-in-the-making/

    Permaculture farms, for example, are already well known for relying on abusive work conditions. See Joel Salatin:

    https://medium.com/permaculture-3-0/fall-of-a-hero-f9ac80a08c0c

    https://www.motherjones.com/food/2020/11/joel-salatin-chris-newman-farming-rotational-grazing-agriculture/

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      Are these the same people that abduct teens at night and bring them to these camps where they die of dehydration?

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      It’s going to be like those troubled teenager reform schools. They will torture non compliance.

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    Fuck that.

    I strongly dislike how the argument hinges on the very movable goalpost of “illegal” drugs. It has this awful moralizing “protect the kids while we destroy privacy”, vibe to it.

    At first I though this would require an end-run on HIPAA, but all they really need to do is re-schedule a bunch of therapeutic drugs. Or ignore the FDA entirely and just enforce a ban by edict (somehow) through a different agency. I don’t think we’ve ever seen federal agencies openly disagree like that before, but I think it’s possible. Also: big pharma may have something to say about all this.

    Like a lot of the nonsense coming from this cabinet, it’ll test the crap out of state’s rights.

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    This sounds like the exact place drug addicts will go to find drugs. Someone who doesn’t respect the Healthcare industry won’t know how to run an organization like this. It will grow too fast and will use questionable methods so abhorrent it will be an obvious front for something sinister. I’m guessing it will get co-opted for the drug trade, either that or they will full on be replacements for all the immigrants being “exported.”

    I’d bet money on opium den before forced labor. Suburban whites are not a force they ought to trifle with.

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    Yeah, I already started weaning myself off my depression meds. Went cold turkey once, and that was a nightmare. They’re planning to kill the VA, so fuck our service. I’m never getting cut off again. I’ll switch to natural alternatives, thank you.

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    Nothing to see here, just politics as usual, the liberals are just trying to scare everyone. /s