Summary

Donald Trump’s 2024 campaign has reignited fears among undocumented migrants with promises of “mass deportations” and migrant communities are bracing for uncertainty and a new wave of nativism.

His administration plans to target those deemed public safety or national security threats, potentially reinstating workplace raids and using military resources.

Advocates warn that “collateral arrests” could sweep up migrants without criminal records.

Many, like “Dreamers” protected under DACA, fear family separations, while others, such as Carlos in NYC, hope Trump’s economic policies might benefit them.

“A lot of Latinos, those who can vote, did so because they think he [Trump] can improve the economy. That would be very good for us too,” said Carlos, an undocumented Mexican who lives in New York City.

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    I get that TikTok, YT Shorts, and FaceBook slowly removes attention span, but how the fuck does it cause Amnesia for everything that happened before 2020?

    Trump literally removed holding time limitations and changed the Criminal Only ICE focus of previous administrations so they could put women and children in cages deport children alone to random South American nations citing some ancient treaties.

    This already fucking happened. All of it.

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    “A lot of Latinos, those who can vote, did so because they think he [Trump] can improve the economy. That would be very good for us too,” said Carlos, an undocumented Mexican who lives in New York City.

    So long, Carlos.

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      I’m still trying to understand this belief that he is good for the economy. He’s a failed business man who bankrupted a casino. His successful businesses are all grifts and money laundering. To say nothing of how our economy tanked after 4 years of his failed trade wars and 2+2=7 tax plan.

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    They made “migrating” a crime, so, yeah, leopards…face…

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    What part of “mass deportations” do people not understand? Trump told us what he’s going to do. His cabinet pick told us what he’s going to do. They’re going to do it.

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    I’m worried they’re going to start raiding schools and daycares as well in order to force parents to turn themselves in or just to be malicious. A lot of children are going to be separated from their parents.

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      That would be right in line with their normal behavior. Seeing how many children they kidnapped in the previous Trump administration.

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    “A lot of Latinos, those who can vote, did so because they think he [Trump] can improve the economy. That would be very good for us too,” said Carlos, an undocumented Mexican who lives in New York City.

    Oh Carlos, mi dulce niño del verano …

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        Carlos, for the 2570th time, you are free to go chico! Thanks for only being an immigrant and not a criminal immigrant. Our criminal tags are pretty good and you don’t have any. See you tomorrow before work again? 😊 You too man! 😀 Oh what an inspiration of a person!

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    As someone posted in another thread, the mass deportations of Mexicans in the late 1920s/early 1930s ended up deporting American born Mexicans as well. So yeah, America deported actual American citizens because they didn’t care or couldn’t be bothered to check papers or whatever. Who’s to say that isn’t going to happen this time around?

    Also, Trump said Latinos have a “murder gene,” so he already thinks they’re all criminals of some sort.

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      Everyone without white skin needs to get a passport and maintain a line of getting it. I.e. if you get fast deported you can have a family member mail it to you in Mexico.

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        As a white man, I fucking HATE this but you’re right. God dammit. I voted Harris, but I still really want to fight for those that can’t.

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    Do they not realize that he and his core audience believe the greatest crime a person can commit is not be born white?

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    Ummmmm Conservatives already see them as criminals because they are here “illegal”. By default all undocumented migrants are criminals.

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      Trump also said he’d aggressively deport and sort through the mistakes later. He’s going to deport legal immigrants too, and I very much doubt they’ll let them back in without an extensive legal battle. Which will never move forward because he’ll intentionally starve the court system (like congress already did at his order) so that realistically, they will never get through the system.

      Great fucking job giving Nazis free reign, you stupid, stupid, evil fuckers. You had a choice to fight nazis when it was easy. Just a vote. But you chose nazis, one way or another.

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        Ohhhhh I agree with you for the most part. But the last part?! Who exactly are you referring to as you? If you are chastising Democratic leadership 100% Anyone else other than literally Nazie’s (aka Trump, JD, the majority of RNC members and leaders, and some of their voters), shouldn’t be blamed.

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          Obviously, this statement was not targeting you specifically. “You” is targeted towards Trump voters and non-voters.

          We knew what was on the ballot. I don’t care that the DNC could have done better. When the choice is “meh” vs literal Nazis, you’re a damn nazi if you didn’t vote directly against them.

          I’m fucking done mincing words after voters gave them the House, Senate, POTUS, and all the god damn courts.

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            First off, before I continue. I voted blue.

            But it’s naive to not see voting as transactional. Even more so when major issues face America and humanity, has tested and proven solutions.

            For example, Healthcare. The solution to America’s Healthcare crisis is Universal health care. With the middle ground between Universal and fully private is the public option. Neither party would even entertain the notion of a public opinion. The Democratic party could have secured millions of votes if they added public option or universal to their platform. They knew this. All the polling said those were overwhelming popular positions to have. It’s poor leadership and poor advising that kept Harris from having that.

            Several polls and Arab, Palestinian, and liberal organizations told the party, that not having a concrete plan to save Palestinian lives would cost Harris millions of votes. It’s poor leadership and advising to not have Palestinian sovereignty and return to post ww2 boarders as part of the campaign. It’s not like Christian evangelicals and zionest were going to vote blue anyways? So why not appeal to your base and a large voting demographic?

            I can go on with several other progressive topics. (education, military spending, justice reform, foreign policy, wealth redistribution, climate, money on politics, ect.) So many progressive solutions to very real problems were never addressed or openly opposed by Democrats. The only downside to taking up those causes would have been money from top donors.

            Voting is inherently transactional and will always be that way. For “my” vote your platform must have zxy and you must try to get as close to xyz as possible. If you don’t have xyz why should I vote for you? You don’t care about my issues and values, why should I care about yours. It’s the world we live in. Either the democrats take up a full progressive agenda or they’ll continue to lose in the most critical time in human history.

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    There’s only 11 million undocumented immigrants in the united states. The Trump Administration has pledged to deport 20 million. Which means they are going to be expelling American citizens from their home as well. It’s not just going to be criminals. It’s going to be anyone whose skin tone they don’t like.

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        Which if they are born in the United States are United States citizens. Which is important to remember. They’re looking to deport people to countries they’ve never been to. Whose languages they don’t speak. It would be one thing if they were talking about young children who still needed their parents. Yes by all means don’t tear families apart is the Trump Administration previously did. But they are talking about the adult children as well. So it’s particularly extra despicable.

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          I don’t know why they even expect countries to cooperate with that shit. Why should Venezuela accept US citizens being deported into the country?

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            Because authoritarian regimes whether they are capitalist or leninist Etc don’t ask. The people just show up there if they’re lucky or in a mass grave if they’re not. They’re not asking Venezuela or any other country for permission to send people there. Honestly a lot of the time they just dump them in Mexico and let them be their problem. After all xenophobia isn’t a responsible or rational response.

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              Mexico still needs to cooperate on some level to allow border agents to cross the border and dump ex-citizens.

              Or I guess the US could just keep them in camps.

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    I sincerely wish the absolute worst on any marginalized group that voted for Trump. You have nothing but my deepest sincere disgust and deserve whatever happens to you.

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        Sorry I have no sympathy for those that vote against their self interests.

        I’m not gonna feel sorry for the guy that willingly cut off his nose to spite his face.

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    I know y’all want to make this a stupid voters leopards ate my balls post but these are undocumented people. They can not vote and had no say in the election.

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      Remember the old maxim: “no one hates new immigrants more than old immigrants”… Their fellow legalized immigrants supported this outcome as well

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        100%. My wife’s family ALL came illegally. I think it’s like 7-10 people, the last one got naturalized like 4 years ago. All but a couple voted for trump and their stance on it is “oh well we got lucky that’s just how it is. They need to come legally”

        I had no words after that.

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      I’m sorry, my “give a fuck” stopped working just after the election results came in.

      Trump promised to deport illegals and even “denaturalize” certain citizens. He wants to deport 20 million illegal immagrants separate family and put the in camps while awaiting deportation. None of this was a secret, they fucking bragged about it.

      Trump gained 14 points nationally with Hispanics. I hope he goes balls to the fucking wall and drops the hammer. May the people get exactly what they voted for.

      Meanwhile, I’m going to do the best to make sure me and mine are taken care of. Stock up on toilet paper, N95 masks, freeze dried food and bullets. It’s gonna be lit!🔥

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    Aren’t criminals already being deported if they are caught? He was clear that he is after immigrants (in some speeches illegal, but in some even legal)

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    They will grab anyone they can get their hands on. Criminals will have the advantage that they know how to hide, and there are way more non-criminals, so Jose Average will be picked first, being the easiest target to fulfill the quota.

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      Also while some peoples definition of criminal is “murderer” or similar some peoples definition is closer to "you did or a relative did something not 100% legal in the last generation or two.

      edit: some peoples definition of criminal will definitely include unhoused or non-land owning eventually

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        It already includes being homeless. The anti camping bans are straight up making it illegal to camp without a house to go back to.