Fun to think about, but I can promise that Trump will never see consequences for his actions. Everything just miraculously slides right off of him.
Like a convcted felon president elect is going to give 2 shits about new york, or laws in general.
He’ll get a judge to pause all this shit until later. A good lawyer knows the law, a great lawyer knows the judge.
A great Russian Mafia knows the judge’s and prosecutor’s kids 🔪
And where the nearest window is when they refuse the tea
He’ll just stay out of New York until his coronation
Every time there’s talks about it I think about The fall of the house of Usher
Cheat codes
You know how I know this is bullshit? Because even if Trump got the maximum sentence for each of his felony counts, which is three years of prison, they can all be served concurrently, so he would be out by November 2027 with more than a year left of his term.
If Judge Merchan proceeds with sentencing, Trump’s legal team will just appeal and push it back until after Jan 20th.
Nice wishful thinking, but Trump winning erased the chances of him ever being held accountable for his crimes against the American people. A majority of Americans felt like he should get away with all of it. On day one he will appoint a sycophant to the DOJ who will drop all of his federal cases, and the state cases will get paused because the President is immune from state prosecution while on office.
If anybody here wanted to see justice done, you should have shown up on the 5th.
crimes against the
American peoplepeople of New York.FTFY
Don’t know if you’ve ever been to NY, but they literally hate anyone that isn’t from NY. They used to LOVE Trump and his business practices. Call them shady if you want, but that used to bring in money for NY. Then he started making money in Florida and ran as a Republican. That pissed them off but good!
They aren’t doing this for the American people. They are doing this for themselves.
The hush money payments are not the only things he was being prosecuted for. Jan 6th, the Georgia RICO case, the classified documents case, etc. New York is not the only state that deserves justice.
Trump is and has always been a criminal. New York (my home state) just has the balls to actually bring him to court even if he slimes his way out of any real consequence. And believe it or not we dont hate outsiders. Just shady businessmen and people who dont pay their bills.
That’s 100% not going to happen. As much as it should.
guys, this is dumb af. this is america. trump isn’t going to prison.
Also then you put JD in charge…
Would he? Honest question I’m not sure how at would work if Trump was imprisoned or died before taking office.
https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-20/
In Section 3:
If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President.
Wouldn’t surprise me if the GOP martyred Trump, honestly. They can’t have him abdicate or remove him and have MAGA support, but if they could find a way to martyr him they would have their messiah and Thiel’s boy in place. The smart play would be to have him serve more than half of his term though, so Vance could have a shot at 10 years in the White House.
I would go so far as to say that this has always ben the plan, at least this time around. I find it highly suspicious that Trump has been the target of assassination attempts by republicans twice (plus a foreign attempt on his life) already. We’re being prepared to accept this as expected when it finally happens, and it has to happen in order to give Vance the pretext to implement martial law and usher in the high-tech Handmaid’s Tale scenario his patrons want. Trump is their useful idiot; but useful only because he is populist and charismatic enough to get them in power via ordinary electoral process. Once they suspend that process entirely they no longer need him and in fact he becomes a liability; offing him kills two birds with one stone.
Thank you for sou g the leg work.
We (probably) don’t have a president-elect yet, only a presumptive one. The EC votes have been neither cast nor counted. The most likely point in time at which a candidate becomes president-elect is when the majority of the EC votes have been cast for that candidate, regardless of the counting and certification. Even though we use the term loosely for the assumed winner, the EC adds a layer of weirdness to the legal definition.
Yeah, but most states have the faithless electors thing sorted out already, the ones that don’t would probably quickly pass laws to bind them to the slate the voters chose.
What I’m saying is not about faithless electors. I never mentioned them, so I’m not completely sure what took you down that road.
There is a legal definition of the term “president-elect” that hasn’t entirely been sorted out. The most widely accepted view is that the candidate who has the majority of EC votes cast for them, regardless of whether those votes have been counted or certified, is legally the president-elect. The nuance to this is that any reference to the president-elect before EC votes have been cast is using the common term, not the legal one.
The distinction is mostly inconsequential, one major exception being the 20th amendment, which you cited previously. That particular usage is specifically the legal definition, which very likely has not been satisfied until the EC casts their votes. The outcome is that, if those who are meant to uphold the law have any interest in doing so, the 20th amendment does not yet apply, and the legal roles of president-elect and vice president-elect are currently vacant.
It’s a meme so of course it’s dumb. It’s also pretty funny.
Didn’t Napoleon go to prison?
Napoleon was french, not American.
Citation needed.
Yeah he’s not going to jail. The bastard is just going to keep laughing at us every day. But he’s only got maybe 20 years to go. I would be surprised if 10. He’s basically 20% rotten McDonald’s M double cheeseburger. We might have to deal with princes Vans instead of Maybe one of the other trump princesses. Who knows.
All we should do is wait and feed him Peanuts or pretzels. He’s bound to choke in one of those things. Either that or the sodium.
still 20 years! Average USA lifespan for man is 75 year. He should already be dead by now.
Yes money help with living longer, but with his bad health hygiene it should cancel out.
Average mean means middle…half the population is still alive at average age unfortunately. But fortunately the whole age range is non-linear because nobody gets to be 150 years old. More like 1 person in the world might get to be 125 years old if they never smoked, never had even looked at a MacDonalds burger on TV etc.
Beautiful article. I’m feeling better already about everything really.
Wow, we didn’t know what to expect in 2013.
I remember having dreams. You guys remember those? Fun times.
After the election results and looking at Elon for past few months, I’m starting to think Trump isn’t the problem. It won’t matter if he stays or not. USA has got bigger knives in it’s chest.
STARTING to think? Honestly I don’t even hate Trump anymore. It’s like hating a shark or a snake or something. He’s just doing what he does. It’s the ~75 million people who enable him by voting for him that are disgusting and terrifying right now. Half of America is the problem, and he is just a symptom, and it is a BIG BIG BIG problem for the whole world.
I’ve been thinking about this a lot lately. Recently I looked up what has been going on in various European countries, and it seems like with a lot of them there’s an extreme populist party with about 20% control, there’s a less extreme party that’s still queerphobic and anti-abortion but more willing to compromise with maybe about 15% control, and then there’s more liberal but economically conservative parties parties making it so the total of economically conservative parties including the above two is above 50%. These countries also have actual progressive and even some left-wing representation in government.
Contrast this with the US, which only has a populist party and a socially liberal but economically conservative party that a bunch of people are brainwashed to think is literally communism. There is very little progressive representation even though the country has a significant number of progressives, and people who want less government regulations are voting Republican regardless of their stances on social issues. Meanwhile polls say that opposition to LGBTQ rights and abortion is probably around 30% which is not much different than the European countries I looked at. So I think half the problem is that democracy in the US is basically dysfunctional.
However, 30% opposition to LGBTQ and abortion rights is still fucking bad, and I’m still trying to figure out whether it is the propaganda to blame or the people themselves. Additionally racism and xenophobia had been on the rise everywhere and has basically gained popular support at this point so democracy clearly isn’t going to solve this.
This.
We have an absolutely wrecked educational system that nobody can think anymore. People have either working lives that occupy them 99% of the time and they can’t make informed decisions, or are suffering from 10-second attention-spans and can’t focus on any political messages past “I am the greatest, vote for me” and the fact that is the literal message that won an election, should terrify us all.
If we have a really big challenge, like a novel new virus or disease, in our current state with our current leaders, millions would di- oh, wait, what? I’m being told this already happened.
Well, if something else really bad happens then we’ll have similar or worse causalities.
Yeah you can absolutely forget about any meaningful climate change action now, education, health care, things like that.
The environmental impacts are going to be awful. With Chevron stripped and full gop legislative control it’s going to be free reign for companies to pollute whatever they want.
A false flag to enable emergency powers blessed upon the worst of us all.
It doesn’t matter. None of this matters.
supreme court will toss all these out. Though it would be funny.
They literally couldn’t. But he isn’t getting that sentence anyways.
They will say that executive authority is impeded by any sentence and defer it at minimum
NY was already probably going to give him a suspended sentence.
So build him a special jail so he isn’t impeded. Not that logic ever really mattered on planet earth.
I am convinced that if Kamala won Trump would have started an armed insurgency. Well, this would definitely about do it.
The legal loophole is called maximum sentence.
But no, he was always going to get something like 2 years supervised parole.
Even if this happens, we’d end up with JD Vance likely running the show which would also suck.
bruh, jd vance is the fucking president any day now. we are talking about a morbidly obese cuntrag whose favorite pastime is demolishing hamberders.
If my own experience has taught me anything, the people like that you want to just up and die…live longer than any of the good people you know.
but for that to happen Trump would have to step down.
his ego would never allow that.
If he somehow actually goes to prison they will immediately invoke the 25th amendment and make Vance president.
that will piss off his base for sure.
good.
Yeah, I am failing to see the downside. People are worried Vance would be more effective. Not me, I know they would be at each other’s throats soon as Trump is taken out of the picture.
Plus you finally set the precedent that politicians and billionaires can go to prison. Now all the rest are on watch because it could happen to them.
Politicians and the wealthy need the fear of God put in them. They love to do it to everyone else. Now is the time to start holding them accountable for their lies and fraud starting with perhaps one of the most fraudulent liars on the planet first.
It is probably a fantasy, but damn it would be a good one.
People in the Netherlands once ate the prime minster (basically president). Just saying, there are options.
That’s how you get brain worms.
Legal eagle on YouTube and nebula has a recent video on this very subject. Short form? It’s over.
Nobody is going to put an elected present in jail. It’s game over.
