• atocci@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Could a ghost possess a zombie created from its own body? Could this ghost-zombie hybrid, hypothetically, continue their career in law?

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      Szeth-son-son-Vallano, truthless of Shinovar, wore white on the day he was to become a magical flying ghost cop possessing his own corpse

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      Depends entirely on the limitations of the ghost’s possession ability, but if the ghost can possess a living person and control them, then an animated corpse should work as well. The problem with continuing the career is that the body would continue to decay until the ghost wouldn’t be able to move it any more.

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        The problem with continuing the career is that the body would continue to decay until the ghost wouldn’t be able to move it any more.

        Just like a living body 🙁

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    If the zombie retains memory/personality, then I’d say that if a soul exists in the setting, that it is still in the body or has been returned to the body. Therefore no separate ghosts.

    If the zombie exists only as a husk to be used as a puppet by some other intelligence or entity, then I’d say ghosts of those people make sense.

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    For by death is wrought greater change than hath been shown. Whereas in general the spirit that removed cometh back upon occasion, and is sometimes seen of those in flesh (appearing in the form of the body it bore) yet it hath happened that the veritable body without the spirit hath walked. And it is attested of those encountering who have lived to speak thereon that a lich so raised up hath no natural affection, nor remembrance thereof, but only hate. Also, it is known that some spirits which in life were benign become by death evil altogether.

    • Hali, the Philosopher, from “Can Such Things Be?” By Ambrose Bierce in “The Death of Halpin Frayser”

    For there be divers sorts of death—some wherein the body remaineth; and in some it vanisheth quite away with the spirit. This commonly occurreth only in solitude (such is God’s will) and, none seeing the end, we say that man is lost, or gone on a long journey—which indeed he hath; but sometimes it hath happened in the sight of many, as abundant testimony showeth. In one kind of death the spirit also dieth, and this it hath been known to do while yet the body was in vigor for many years. Sometimes, as is veritably attested, it dieth with the body, but after a season is raised up again in that place where the body did decay. woops, wrong Hali Qoute

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    Yes. Depending on the fiction, if the ghost isn’t a soul but instead a psychic/spiritual remnant, both can happen and the soul can have gone to the afterlife too. You can do a lot with fiction.

    Story pitch: Soul gets to leave hell for one night to convince someone to put down their zombie corpse so their ghost will demanifest and they can finally go to a better afterlife.

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    I love this idea.

    Just make sure at least one member of the party is in a compromised position when they bite it. Example: not wearing any pants.

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    I like Pratchett’s zombies. Where the force of will of the soul of the person is so strong that they refuse to dis-inhabit their body. But since the subconscious did so many things on autopilot, they now are forced to do every function of their body deliberately. That’s why they move so stiffly and strangely.

    You know what? Go read Reaper Man. It’s great. And Windle Poons was never so alive until after he died

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        What is your interests? Sir Terry was a consummate satirist, able to reach the heart without being too serious. Here’s what I’d recommend off the top of my head:

        Pure entertainment: Moving Pictures - an alchemist invents Film, and suddenly everyone is moving to Holy Wood. But as Moving Pictures blur the line between fantasy and reality, something Else wants to see reality as well

        It Makes You Think: Small Gods - What is faith? What happens when people replace belief in their god with the institution that surrounds the god? What if the god in question is a bastard? What is worse, the god, or the holy wars that will be made by the next “prophet”? Religion and philosophy clash with the sound of lightening hitting a copper roof

        You’ll think, but with wordplay: The Truth - Dwarves have learned how to turn lead into gold. The hard way. The printing press has come to Anhk Morpork, and with it, the Press. A commentary on truth, journalism, and politics, with a healthy dose of classism and privilege

        For the Feels: Feet of Clay - (this one drops you in the middle of the Watch series, but you won’t be in the weeds for long. If you don’t want mild spoilers from earlier in the series, save this for later) A priest and a baker are murdered, and the Tyrant of the city has been poisoned. It’s up to Sam Vimes to find out what’s at the bottom of this mystery. And he could probably do so if it weren’t for all of the damned clues. And what do the Golems, those silent machines who toil in the worst places, have to do with any of this? When the servant class isn’t considered living, who cares what happens to them?

        More Feels: Reaper Man - Death has been fired. But he has been given a retirement gift: The Time of his Life. There’s not much of it, because when the next Death is chosen the Reaper Man’s time will have run out. A reflection on mortality, time, and the obligation of the Reaper to respect the Harvest. And who will care for the harvest, if not for the Reaper Man?

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    This is essentially one* of the Kingdom Hearts plot threads. Sora sacrifices himself and becomes a Heartless (ghost) in KH1, but since he has such a strong heart, the husk he leaves behind becomes the Nobody Roxas (zombie).