Conspiracy theorist said to have been key promoter of false rumour about immigrants ex-president repeated in debate

Republicans are blaming the influence of Laura Loomer, a rightwing conspiracy theorist, for this week’s botched debate performance by Donald Trump, which included the former president repeating a bizarre and unfounded claim that pet cats and dogs were being eaten by Haitian immigrants.

Loomer flew with Trump on his private plane to Tuesday’s debate in Philadelphia and has been identified as a key promoter of the pets rumour, which has been dismissed as false by authorities in Springfield, Ohio, where the practice was alleged to have been taking place.

Loomer, who styles herself as an “investigative journalist”, last year promoted a conspiracy theory alleging that 9/11 was an”inside job”. On Wednesday she posted an unfounded allegation that Harris had worn earphones disguised as earrings during the debate.

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    Trump knew it was bullshit. He just forgot that his audience wasn’t his brainwashed supporters.

    Either that or he actually believed it was real. And I don’t know which one is worse.

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        Yeah he’s not nearly clever enough to be two-faced about this kind of stuff. He just believes whatever the people around him tell him to believe. It might be the scariest thing about him as Commander in Chief really.

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        What he believes is irrelevant except as mens rea, but at the same time he has given constant indication that he fully believes whatever is most convenient at the time. This is an individual who after over a decade involved in politics has embraced the card says moops with a consistency and commitment that surely must be pathological

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    Okay, and?

    Trump still said that shit. If Walz went to Harris and said, “The radical right is injecting holy water in babies’ eyes so they can see the lord” and she just said that shit without checking, I’d be looking at her sideways too. He went to a national debate and sputtered out nonsense that he didn’t verify or even question. That shit’s on him.

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      And it’s not Walz to compare that to. It’s more like if Natalie Wynn or another bread tuber did it. There’s a level of assumed trust between vp candidate and presidential candidate that this completely lacks (and this still would violate it). This lady is just some low level pundit calling herself a journalist

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        I think the connection is that it became a talking point because Vance brought it up. While it’s likely he doesn’t listen to Vance unless it’s filtered through an LCD, I think the comparison is pretty apt

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    Maybe they should actually - hear me out here - blame, I dunno, Donald Trump for what comes out of Donald Trump’s mouth? Rather than whatever idiot planted the most recent brain-dead conspiracy theory into his head? There will always be more idiots with brain-dead conspiracy theories, so maybe, just maybe, your candidate for President of the United States shouldn’t be a complete moron who falls for every single one of them?

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      Yeah, I too don’t understand why everyone around him is just OK with the idea of the guy being a completely responsibility-free empty vessel.

      It seems that once again they want to absolve this…former president of all responsibilities, but him being responsible for what comes out of his donkey-brained mouth is the lowest possible bar of accountability before the bar clangs to the floor.

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    I wanted to make a joke about Trumps campaign admitting that he believes anything the people around say, but then I remembered the goat dewormer and injecting bleach claims and it’s not funny anymore.

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    Charge her with incitement for every crime against these people. This is such a heinous thing to do.

    And if you want proof that American Christianity is a tribal identity not a belief in the gospels it’s the fact that it’s the people demanding this be a Christian nation terrorizing these refugees who happen to be predominately Christian

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    MTG is just happy she finally found someone (slightly) more racist than her:

    “If @KamalaHarris wins, the White House will smell like curry & White House speeches will be facilitated via a call center and the American people will only be able to convey their feedback through a customer satisfaction survey at the end of the call that nobody will understand,” Loomer wrote.

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    In today’s news of “Every accusation the GOP makes is an admission of guilt”:

    GOP accuses immigrants of eating pets, while today the GOP began eating its own pet, Laura Loomer.

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      Former Arizona GOP chair Robert Graham told Axios the billboards are a “complete waste of money” because few voters are familiar with the rumors in the first place.

      • “When you’re in election time you’re trying to inspire people to vote for your candidate, not make them solve a puzzle,” Graham said. “Republicans have a healthy message, or could have — it’s jobs, opportunity, prosperity, safety. We believe Republican governing principles are the best. We don’t need to put cow suits on the words.”
      • Graham, who partially lived in Haiti for 11 years, said he didn’t think most people would find the billboards offensive, though, “I would take offense if I was Haitian, for sure.”

      Wow. A GOP using and making sense.

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    So they fixed the electoral college, and they know victory is all but certain. That’s why they came up with the most cruel and despicable lie so that when Trump wins, despite losing the debate, progressives and leftists and sane people will be heartbroken and soul shattered.

    This is how you know the electoral college is fixed, they have no fear of repercussions

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      If the electoral college didn’t exist, then all you had to do was campaign in LA, SFO, ATL and NY and ignore the rest of the country because popular vote wins and the biggest population centers would matter more. This is a really stupid fucking take please stfu about abolishing the EC because abolishing it results in politicians ignore minorities and their issues (i.e. racism, poverty, etc)

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                When do they look like they care now? I have never seen a president campaign on a reservation. Insulting me is not going to make your point make sense. Presidents might not care about the indigenous without the electoral college, but they don’t care with the electoral college either. It’s a moot point.

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        History proves you wrong. The fucking Three-Fifths Compromise proves you wrong! Imagine pretending we would somehow be more racist if we removed the Electoral College, I can’t even.

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        False. In fact, that would still be better than the handful of random swing states. Proportionality matters.

        Besides, campaigns are run in the digital sphere anyway.

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        So letting a bunch of isolated inbred hermits in the middle of nowhere decide everything instead is a better way of doing things?

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        So? As a red state rust belt resident we already have the house and the senate that make sure that the middle of nowhere gets represented in the government. My state isn’t on your list and has three cities with more people than Wyoming. Shouldn’t there be somewhere where the majority of Americans get their way?