(Go stick your head in a pig!)
Come to think of it, “share and enjoy” is exactly the way I would expect an AI-generated YouTube video to end.
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I’d rather listen to Vogon poetry than use Elon’s AI.
“They’re the same picture.”
Got a new laptop recently. Copilot pops up, so I asked it how to permanently disable Copilot.
It gave me a wordy non-answer, along with a “fun fact” about my local area — totally relevant and not creepy at all.
Then, after I demanded it tell me how to permanently disable itself, Copilot gave me a completely wrong answer.
After specifying the “app or service” I’m using (Windows, you fucking clueless piece of shit), it then gave me a half-baked answer that called commands which weren’t installed by default.
I then used duckduckgo to figure out how to install the configuration tool copilot said to use but that Windows had decided to hide from me.
Good job completely wasting my time, you ai-loving fucks at Microsoft. I don’t need new reasons to nuke your shitty software and install Linux, but now I have them. If Linux had native vst3 support, I wouldn’t have even booted into Windows.
Edit: Stranger in a Strange Land is a great book, and being the sci-fi novel backgrounding hippie culture, I wouldn’t have expected Musk to have read it.
This whole series of events feels very Hitchhiker’s Guide.
Edit: Stranger in a Strange Land is a great book
Not going to lie, it was one of my least favorite Sci-Fi novels. Felt entirely too Just-So. The characters - particularly Heinlein’s self-insert Jubal Harshaw - just came across as vapid, bigoted, and annoying. And so much of the book felt like a climax to an apocalypse everyone deserved (but not in a Douglas Adams funny way, just a deeply nihilistic “Everyone sucks and I hate it here” kind of way).
Since I read it in college (a long-ass time ago), I probably didn’t mind the nihilism too much lol
I definitely remember the book going in a completely different direction than what I expected, which I liked!
Would KX Studio’s “Carla” help with VST3?
I’ve heard that Carla is the way to go, but how much more overhead will it cost when basically all the plugins I use are vst3? At least one project on my tower pc is pretty much maxed out as it is with them running natively on Windows.
My other issue is simply time: this is already side project stuff that I do for a little extra money/learning/career development, and at this point, I simply don’t have time to try alternatives.
If I was just researching and writing papers like I did back in grad school, Windows would be gone, but as it stands, the path of least resistance for the audio work I’m doing is just to deal with what I’ve got.
Yeah fair points!
Out of interest what is the side project you’re doing that involves music production (presumably)?
I’m the production manager and audio engineer for an independent venue, but I also do enough extracurricular, 1099 work that I needed to start spending money to write off on my taxes.
So, I bought a nice PC a few years ago, started using a friend’s old laptop (that I just replaced with my recent, copilot-infected purchase) to take multitrack recordings for local artists at work, and have been making my way into the mixing and mastering world at home. I figured getting some experience on the studio side would improve my live sound skills and give me something of a fallback, just in case.
Not quite sure how that’s panning out, but I have learned a few things and have gotten some decent sounds just recording with standard, live audio gear!
I wouldn’t have expected Musk to have read it.
Who said he actually did? The term “grok” is listed in The Jargon File / The New Hacker’s Dictionary. Musk probably read it long ago. …Like every proper geek. Nowadays, every time he drops an epic meme (as kids say these days), it’s a hazily remembered reference to something nerdy from ages gone by, and it just demonstrates he has absolutely no idea about the context.
Maybe I misunderstood OP?
I don’t think I’ve ever read The Jargon File or The New Hacker’s Dictionary, but I definitely read Heinlen for fun in college. My educational background is in the social sciences and humanities.
Good point about his lack of context though!
I just rewatched a show called Devs with a friend. One of the striking moments was when one of the characters recites some poetry and the techy boss didn’t seem to care about how literature can inform and enrich our lives.
Grok is like that AI door they had to smooth talk to get it to open for them
I think LLMs work just fine if you know how to use them and their limitations. Imo, they aren’t ready for general use without a lecture in how they work and what to expect from them.
Personal computers were enthusiast devices in the 70s and 80s and users had to know how to write code to use them. It took a bit of time for their interfaces to become friendly for the general population. The internet in the early 90s was the same. It is a shame tech companies today want to push this AI down the throats of everyone without first figuring out what and how it should actually be used.
I think it would be a shame if we discard all LLMs today as they do have practical uses. We just shouldn’t overuse them where they don’t belong.
In the 80s it was quite common to depict AI as being stupid, typical Schwarzenegger scene here from total recall: https://youtu.be/xGi6j2VrL0o
As a college student, yeah, ain’t nobody trying to avoid AI, lol. We ALL use that shit every single day
Using it to your own detriment. Fucking idiots.
How do you figure? Please extrapolate for me.
You’re paying tens of thousands of dollars to learn how to think critically and do hard shit with your brain. Instead of actually putting in the work, you’re letting an AI do the hard parts. Which defeats the purpose of going/paying in the first place.
I’m sure I would have done the same back then too. But it is short sighted.
I asked my math teacher when I would ever use [whatever we were learning at the time] and his answer stuck with me.
“It’s not about learning how to [thing], it’s about learning to solve a problem in a new way”
I regret not taking it to heart in school but I try to remind myself of that when I “waste” a night working on something “useless” - you learn a lot more than the solution while solving a problem
It hadn’t struck me until now that some think that all you’re trying to learn in school is the solutions to arbitrary problems, but people thinking that makes a lot of sense and helps clarify why they have the posture they do towards education.
Some aspects of education overemphasize memorization so maybe a lot of people think that applies to all of education when it does not.
Yup. Unlike a calculator which just makes doing the things you already understand the steps of doing easier, AI just gives answers whether they are right or not.
I remember a teacher telling me the same thing about calculators way back when. “If you’re not able to do the calculation yourself you won’t know if the calculator’s answer is right or not”
The difference being that if you put in the right equation the calculator will give you the correct result.
AI might give you the right result.
Almost everyone who goes to college is paying tens of thousands of dollars to get a piece of paper so they can get a better paying job.
And considering how many people leave college completely inept I’d say they’re not doing the hard work of learning.
AI is ultimately just a tool, and whether it’s beneficial or detrimental depends on how you use it.
I’ve seen some of my classmates use it to just generate an answer which they copy and paste into their work, and yeah, it does suck.
I use it to summarize texts that I know I won’t have time to read until the next class, create revision questions based on my notes, to check my grammar or rephrase things I wrote, and sometimes I use Perplexity to quickly search for some information without having to rely on Google, or having to click through several pages.
Truly it isn’t much different from what we used to do around 2000-2015, which was to just Google things and mainly use Wikipedia as a source. You can just copy and paste the first results you find, or whatever information is on Wikipedia without absorbing it, or you can use them to truly research and understand something. Lazy students have always been around and will continue to be around.
You’re relying on something else for comprehension and composition. Those neural pathways that are made by reading (or listening) to information and digesting it are essentially becoming vestigial. Despite my personal feelings on AI (it has no place in the arts or to replacing voice actors), you cannot always rely on it. It’s already proven fallible for simple things and summaries of any kind are no substitute for reading, listening, or watching it yourself. Doesn’t matter if it’s Cliff’s notes, spark notes, Dead Meat Kill Count, or a garbage AI summary and essay.
Maybe you should considering your career could be at stake.
AI is quickly becoming an integral part of basically every career imaginable. Those that actually take the time to learn how to use it properly are going to inevitably be in a far better position than those too scared to figure it out. The real challenge is finding the balance between using AI as the tool that it is and just getting an easy answer (which, considering all the downvotes I’m getting, is probably the part yall are justifiably concerned with). We need to teach the world (ourselves) how to use AI, not avoid it, and run away like we keep doing. This cat is out of the bag and ain’t never going back.
I am reminded of an argument i had years ago about people relying on google to do their jobs.
I argued that using google to give you the answer to a problem doesn’t help you in the long run. Instead of understanding the solution and being able to use that understanding to solve problems in the future, you just become dependent on google to get you through the day.
It is much more important to learn why a solution fixes a problem and the steps you take to understand the elements of the solution. It opens more doors, and you learn how to use your brain.
Both thinking and googling will get people far, but if google ever went away, only the thinkers would survive.
This is happening again but this time its AI.
The funny thing is, the people who made google search, and the people who created AI, are likely the thinkers.
AI is quickly replacing a lot of careers.
And it will continue to do so.
I’m amazed that you think otherwise when it’s happening right now.
Also, “taking the time to learn to use it” takes all of what, a couple of days of reading at most if you want it to do something really unusual? We’re not talking about advanced coding here.
AI is not replacing much of anything, not yet anyway. It is evolving and forcing the world to evolve with it. While AI is used to write notes, summarize content, generate content, integrate data, organize life, etc., all of that still requires input of some kind from someone. Careers are going to be all about performing that input and interpreting the result. People will not be replaced (except the ones that refuse to keep up), they will just fill a different role.
Also, “taking the time to learn to use it” takes all of what, a couple of days of reading at most if you want it to do something really unusual? We’re not talking about advanced coding here.
You clearly understand nothing about AI if this all you think it is. Sure, anyone can type a prompt and get a garbage result in about 30 seconds, but there is a hell of a lot more to it if you want to actually solve a real problem using AI. Learning advanced coding isn’t actually a bad idea for the future.
Maybe you can understand a different perspective if you stop thinking of AI as gimmicky solution and start thinking of it as what really is, a powerful set of tools meant to make finding the solution easier, nothing more.
First, we are discussing careers, not individuals. No shit people are losing jobs, but guess what, that is exactly what happens when careers evolve or new ones are created. Every. Single. Time.
Think about when precision machining was invented, when printing presses where invented, when cars where invented, when computers where invented, when the fucking internet was invented, etc. Yes, a fuck-ton of people were suddenly out of a job. But then suddenly there are also a whole bunch of brand new jobs and careers to fill. People either learn to adapt and fill those roles, or they don’t, and they get left behind. AI isn’t really any different except that it is happening right now and it’s therefore hard to see what’s to come.
That’s just how the world works. It’s sad and frustrating, I know, but being scared and hiding your head in the sand doesn’t change that fact. Learning how to live and thrive with the new stuff does, though, so maybe let’s try that instead.
Second, and this isn’t to discount everything you linked, but you understand that there is a huge bias going on here, right? People are understandably scared about the future, and the media latches onto that fear and creates articles that feed the narrative beast. But often times, the articles completely neglect to talk about the other side of the coin, which is what we are discussing here.
Okay, well maybe you see things like the death of journalism and the death of criticism and the death of voice-over acting and the death of music composition to be good things, but I don’t know that you’re in the majority there.
And you may also see the massive ecological disaster that AI is becoming is a good thing too. I certainly do not.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impacts_of_artificial_intelligence
Man, back in my day when we wanted to get something wrong on an assignment we had to do it ourselves.
As a professional developer, same. It saves me so much time. My colleagues also use it. Lemmy is a bubble just as much as (or maybe even more so than) Reddit. Mention a use for AI and you’ll end up downvoted to hell. You just said “use AI” and people jump to “this guy switched off his brain and does nothing but blindly copy-paste ChatGPT output into his assignments.”
Yeah, I’m discovering that AI is one of those no-no topics in this particular echo chamber. Disappointing really, this whole thing is a lot more fun when people actually want to talk instead of just following the crowd. It is in the name I guess, lol.
