I’ve been calling around various grocery stores this week, trying to get a hold of pork fat trimmings so that I can make my own lard for some recipes. One of the stores I called today said that they couldn’t give me the trimmings because they don’t have a code for it. I forget exactly what I said, but it was something to the effect of, “so you’re just going to throw it away instead?” “Yes.”
I understand that it does require some effort to separate from the rest of the waste, so I don’t mind paying a bit, but its upsetting that they have no way to pass scraps along to someone who will use them instead of just tossing them in the waste.
Edit for anyone invested: I called around to a few other stores after making this post. One or two mentioned that they don’t necessarily throw all of those bits away, but often use them for other products, such as sausages. I also found a store that will be putting aside their trimmings for me tomorrow, and they should have more than I need. It’s almost an hour away on the bus, but right next to another store that should have any other hard to find ingredients that I’ll need for the tamales.
Also interesting was that different locations of the same chains had different answers for me regarding even their ability to provide the scraps to me, so the suggestions that a manager might be able to make it happen are probably very accurate.
What you are told on the phone and what will actually happen in the store are two completely different things.
I always figured this was for health and safety reasons
It almost certainly is.
Not sure if they still exist, but look for a butcher or maybe a deli. Chain stores have no humanity left.
I did eventually find a store that said they’d have some for me tomorrow, and said they’d put aside about 10lb! I think I only need about 5lb, but depending on what they’re charging, I might just take it all.
It keeps forever in the freezer. It’s great for tortillas and pie crust too. I’d take it all.
Why you are not charging a single penny?
Find a local, independently owned meat market. That is where we get beef tallow for making deer burger. They will sell anything they have that someone will pay for.
One of the other markets around here said they can offer lots of beef tallow, and suggested I try some of the Asian markets, but the challenge is that most of those are a hassle to get to via public transit. I did find at least one other that says they can provide pork fat on Saturday, and I still have a few other places to call too. Worst case, I make a special trip to the Mexican market to buy rendered lard. Just wanted to try rendering it myself this time, and found it super frustrating that no code = trash.
Here is the anti-story to the above:
Back when I was in school I needed a handful of 35mm film canisters for some damn fool project or another. I don’t remember exactly what I was planning to use them for. So I went to the local camera store and asked the clerk there if I could just buy like 20 or 30 empty film canisters figuring they’d have a fair few lying around. This was, of course, in the days when 35mm film was still the predominant photography standard, and consumer grade digital cameras that could even achieve one real world megapixel were very new, very exciting, and very expensive.
Apparently I was right, because they guy said, “Good god, please take some” and gave me an entire shopping bag full of the damn things. For free. Apparently just to be rid of them.
I was using film canisters to store everything and anything for years after that.
That’s awesome!
I did get a small bit of pork lard from another store today, but they basically told me it was a one time thing. I was definitely hoping it would be free since it’s otherwise garbage, but I also wasn’t surprised that they charged a small fee for it. But then again, it’s a national chain, not some small, local shop. The “no code = trash” store is also a national chain, so I’m a little surprised by the differences.
Another factor to add is that major retailers use anything they throw away as a tax write-off “loss” and they are therefore extremely cagey about giving any of it away for any reason, even to employees, I guess because if this is found out it could have some kind of implications, I dunno.
My nephew works for Target and apparently they do this. He tells me a manager will stand there and watch them crushing perfectly good floor model TV’s and other electronics in the trash compactor so he can sign off that they did it and none of those items were used for any beneficial purpose whatsoever, because weaseling out of $0.02 in taxes is apparently more worthwhile to corporate than giving a dedicated employee a new but slightly scuffed TV they were going to throw away anyway.
It’s positively infuriating. I’m sure the perishable goods/food sector is even worse.
They made this bullshit illegal in New York. All food waste has to be donated to the city. They even come pick it up. You can be fined extremely heavily for throwing edible food away. This applies for restaurants, grocery stores, etc.
As another commenter mentioned, it may not be truly sent to the landfill, but sent to some sort of scrap processing facility.
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After calling around more, at least one other store told me that they use the fat trimmings for other things, such as sausages.
If you have one, a local butcher might be a better solution.
Separating the trimmings from the rest of the waste isn’t the only thing that requires effort. I presume that the management doesn’t want to give ordinary employees the authority to just give stuff away, which makes sense. Even if it isn’t a problem in this specific case, it can be a problem because employees won’t always be knowledgeable or honest. Having management review what is being given away involves overhead, and deciding how much to charge you because of that overhead involves more overhead. I probably wouldn’t bother with all that if I ran the supermarket unless I really hated throwing things out, because I would assume you won’t be willing to pay enough to make it worth my time.
In the southeastern US, we have plenty of fatback in stores, among other odds and ends. The employees laughed when I had to ask what it was.
Not an answer for you right now, but I just make lard whenever we get a big hunk of pork, I get the one with a bone and skin cut the skin & fat off and render it and it’s quite a project but makes enough for my purposes though the year, I don’t use it often. I wouldn’t expect a shop to do that for me for any amount I’d be willing to pay!
I’m making tamales, and while I will be buying a big hunk of pork for them, it won’t have enough fat to make enough lard, plus I also wanted to make the lard ahead of time, since it doesn’t need to be super duper fresh. Looking at my notes from last year, I used about 7lb pork shoulder and 2lb lard. The thing is, I asked around about it last year and had multiple butchers say it would be no problem, so I was caught off guard when the staff at those same stotes all said no now. Anyway, I did finally find a butcher that will be saving the fat trimmings for me tomorrow.
My kids have asked for tamales every year since I made them for Christmas about ten years ago, but I am not yet rested up from that batch. Even though we had a tamalada and they helped wrap them, the days ahead making tamale dough (two versions because we have vegans) and fillings (several versions because, again, vegans) it was exhausting. I think it will be either gumbo or oxtail soup this year, and a big pot of beans.
tamalada
I’ve never heard that word before! Looking it up, I see that my family has essentially been having an annual tamalada for probably close to 10 years now. Grandma used to make them all on her own, and since she doesn’t have anything written down, it’s been a joint effort to make sure the recipe lives on. The family recipe is central American, so they’re a bit different than Mexican tamales, but I do enjoy both!
I also did a side project last year to make vegan masa for the few vegan/kosher guests we have, and then I usually do a second traditional batch when I’m back home so I can practice, make notes, and have some to share with my local friends. It’s definitely a lot of work, usually a 2-3 day project, but it does get easier with practice, and 1-3 assistants.
I found corn broth really improves the vegan dough. You can use cobs to make it, and save the corn for something else. Corn cobs & an onion.
Thanks, I’ll keep that in mind! I’ve used store bought vegetable broth and/or olive brine in the past.
