• andrewta@lemmy.world
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    I love older homes because they were built to last.

    I hate them because you can’t move anything anywhere without a saw.

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      Older homes are not build to last. Older homes are just worth preserving. I live in the Netherlands we have a shit ton of old homes, if these homes weren’t repaired or renovated across the centuries most of them would have collapsed. Before modern build codes, like before the 20th century, it wasn’t uncommon for an old home to just collapse with the inhabitants in it.

      In many Dutch cities old homes are literally sinking into the ground, but instead of demolishing them most owners put in a new foundation. If it was an ugly modern glass box it would have been razed to the ground without a second thought.

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        Interesting. There are a ton of homes here built (starting about 1920) that still stand. And trust me they were built to last. Minor upkeep and they are still good today, but then everything is going to require minor upkeep.

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          Survivors bias. You don’t see the old houses that weren’t built well because they’re gone.

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            Look at trainguyrom and read his comment it might give you a different perspective.

            I would also say the ones that didn’t survive were the ones that failed do to not being maintained.

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              I too owned a house built in the late 19th century with an addition built probably around the same time! The houses in the neighborhood were built to house workers from the steel mills nearby. On the main streets you had the foreman houses. Lots of brick, well made. My house was a worker’s house, a stick frame shotgun shack. What little of a foundation it had was a few rows of bricks set upon railroad ties just below the surface. Most likely the only reason it is still standing is because it is on top of a hill and the soil drains quickly. When the wind would blow real hard the house would lean enough that the front door would open. The latch could get past the jam. Fixed it with shims but you get the idea. Nowadays building code would require a foundation built on footers beneath the frost line. (4 feet here) Another building code that is a big improvement is requiring (I forget the proper name) walls to be built in such a way that the space in-between studs doesn’t act like a chimney in case of a fire. Major safety improvement there. I now own a house at least a hundred years old. Same story, built to house quarry workers. Fortunately someone who owned this house before me poured a concrete foundation all the way around. The additions on both my houses are pretty amateur probably because they were done by the homeowners and there was little enforcement of building codes if there were any.

              Also well built houses also fall into ruin due to disrepair. Here in Cleveland there used to be Millionair’s Row. A street where the titans of industry built their mansions, the Rockefellers, Carnegie, Mellon. Very few still exist due to being expensive to maintain. I have a lot of experience with old buildings not only in my personal life but also at work (I’m a contractor) also most of my friends are in the trades with experience in old homes. Suffice to say just because a house is old is no indication of its quality. I can say plenty of bad stuff about new houses too.

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    My grandpa got a pool table in his basement in a very similar stair condition. To this day, I have no idea how beyond the fact that he had a come along tied to a 4x4 across the basement door. We just left it down there when we sold the house.

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          This actually happens. Had a relative that bought one of a row of townhouses being built back in the 60s. The company building the houses thought it would be a sweet incentive to include a piano with each one, so now everyones house in that row has a busted old stand up piano in the basement that’s impossible to remove without some sort of demolition.

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            WOW. When the app popped up your comment, I saw the first sentence and I tried to guess which of my comments it was a response to. Then I went like “no way”.

            No matter how hard you try to come up with some surrealist bullshit, chances are someone had thought of the same and went like “this is a great idea”.

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        the legs come off a grand, they turn it 90d and wheel it on a cart. seen this done, required tall doors tho.

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    This looks a lot like a house i lived in during my studies. We had to known down the rail… :))

    ETA: i mean it REALLY looks like the same staircase, including the little door.