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UnitedHealth uses AI model with 90% error rate to deny care, lawsuit alleges
Thompson, who was named CEO in April 2021, was pronounced dead at Mount Sinai West.
Good thing he had health insurance for his stay at Mount Sinai; some aren’t so lucky thanks to worthless puddles of filth like this.
Edit: Zero sympathy. Negative sympathy, even.
Are they sure it wasn’t a pre-existing condition?
UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot outside NYC hotel in ‘premeditated, preplanned targeted attack’
premeditated
preplanned
Ah, so a preexisting condition. So sorry, law enforcement can’t do anything about it.
It should go without saying that such violence is not good and not supportable.
That said, I also think those who make monopolistic fortunes off the sick while also dictating refusal of care to the sick are categorically not civilians. It is what it is.
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Why should this piece of shit get more sympathy than a convenience store cashier who gets shot during a robbery?
Because the mods get off on simping for the rich it seems.
Oh no not violence against the rich! Inexcusable I say!
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It’s apparently against community rules to discuss violence in any form.
So instead let’s talk about giving CEOs bunnies. Everybody loves bunnies and maybe putting a bunny in a CEOs lap will show them the love they are sorely missing.
Give every CEO a bunny. Give them 20. Give them bunnies while their backs are turned, surprise them with bunnies. Send them bunnies to their homes. Let them y know they are loved even while they’re away from work. Put bunnies in their beds, in their cars. No billionaire CEO should ever turn a corner without knowing a bunny is there waiting. Let the billionaires know the true depths of our love. With bunnies.
Don’t forget to pick up the spent bunny casings. They can lift fingerprints off of those.
you can use alcohol to eliminate those, and there’s really no reason to retain those or even the uhhh. bunny cage? if they’re properly cleaned, because caliber can be determined just by forensics and is totally useless for most LE to know, unless you’re getting really weird with it. yeah. bunny caliber, the caliber of bunnies.
Even well executed and thought out peaceful non compliance only worked after taking a lot of beatings and with a bit of luck.
And most importantly, with the threat of violence as the alternative.
Peace can work too, but the Ivory towers types need to learn that ignoring peaceful protest, and undermining accountability and regulation, will inevitability lead to violence. He brought this on himself.
Let’s give them bunnies. Peace can come when they all have bunnies.
Improvised bunnies in their cars, high powered bunnies 200 yards away in the bushes.
They deserve bunnies.
I have bunnies. They will not give you peace.
You give them to the CEOs, the billionaires.
Bunnies at every turn. Let them know that they can’t go outside without seeing a bunny. That they will know the love a bunny can give at every breath they take.
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Guillotines and the French Revolution disagrees with you. But good on you to pat yourself on the back with your superior morals.
I don’t know if it’s morals, I just don’t have the stomach for violence. That’s kind of a weird thing to say to a person anyway.
I just don’t have the stomach for violence
That’s exactly what rich people are counting on. They want you to roll over and take it up the ass.
The freedoms you have today were obtained through bloodshed. So I’m not really sure what point you’re making other then you’re not willing to fight for anything.
So you’d rather give up on everything and fight for nothing. Nice dude.
Interesting, are you recruiting me to do something specific with you? Or should we just keep discussing how it’s immoral not to do violence on an extremely public forum?
It should go without saying
Shoooould it thoooough?
I almost commented that UnitedHealthcare doesn’t have a monopoly, but that’s really only true at a national level. In some US states, they’re the only option.
The disgusting profits are a product the health insurance industry, they only make money by denying coverage. It’s an environment that encourages human suffering.
Insurance companies regularly commit acts of violence on the poor and sick for the benefit of their bottom line. People literally die because of the decisions this CEO made, so when the shoe is on the other foot, don’t come crying because we know you’re not an innocent actor, insurance company.
Not to mention lobbying against anything that would possibly help the situation and unseat them of their stranglehold on people’s medical outcomes.
We’ve been led to believe that killing someone through the world’s shitiest Rube Goldberg machine of paperwork, policy, legalese, and “just doing my job” is somehow not killing someone.
Killing with a pen is no morally better than killing with a gun. One just takes longer than the other.
It’s nice that whomever did this didn’t take their grudge out on a bunch of powerless workers. So often you see someone with a grudge against… whatever end up shooting a bunch of minimum wage employees who had no hand in their misfortune.
Let’s be honest here. This is probably the only way a ceo would ever be punished for crimes against the poor in America. Unfortunately this will probably lead to the increased militarisation of ceo security teams (and the police) rather than a recognition of why someone would want to dome a ceo in the first place.
Remember, Elizabeth Holmes didn’t get in trouble for providing incorrect medical tests to the plebs. She got in trouble for stealing from other rich people.
Martin Shkreli only got convicted of securities fraud (aka ripping off other rich people). Not for jacking up the price of essential hepatitis medications to unnecessary, ludicrous and unaffordable levels. Crimes against poor people are legal in America.
this will probably lead to the increased militarisation of ceo security teams
People can start going after their family
Killing families is not going to get public support, imo. I think people will just start getting creative - drones and traps, large rakes, etc.
There is an uper limit to how much that kind of security can help.
I’m more concerned about the harm they’ll cause on their ineffectual path. Militarised police are already a disaster. Now imagine the absolute dystopian nightmare that is private hyper militarised police that are accountable only to the billionaires oligarchs they protect walking around and mercing anyone who looks ‘suspicious’ with no accountability.
Yep. It’s messed up that the heads of corporations have driven the legal system to the point that they are in essence completely insulated from the consequences that their leadership inflicts on anyone not a well-paid manager at their company.
From the constant pressure on wages, benefits, and the grind for frontline workers to environmental damage to the enshittification of the product…and in this case the rejection of care could directly have life altering consequences.
Send a boilerplate condolence which arrives a day or two before the final bill. Nothing matters as long as the BoD and shareholders are happy.
Healthcare holds two of the top 10 slots in this list for the most profitable industries, arguably holding the third slot if they were combined, and probably holing the top slot if pharmaceutical research was included. We’re getting f’d for “care.”
I feel sorry for the people who suffered and died due to the awful health insurance industry.
I am honestly surprised people fucked over by health insurance haven’t tried to take things into their own hands before, if that’s what this is. And if that’s not what this is, it surprises me that it hasn’t happened yet.
Plenty of people (me included) have been severely fucked over by insurance companies. I’m not willing to kill anyone, but there are a lot of people out there who are. Especially if they know they’re dying and have nothing to lose.
The CEO is an employee, a manager. You know how shops have managers hired by the owners to run the place? If that were the motive, wouldn’t owners be the preferred target?
A CEO is a CEO. Just because they are accountable to the shareholders does not make them working class. The CEO is the closest thing a corporation has to a singular owner. Their compensation package includes shares (ownership) of the company and they are the ones who make the decisions.
Literally their “job” is to be responsible for the actions of a corporation.
Sure, they do make a lot of decisions, no question. However, those decisions are at the direction of a Board of Directors.
In the same way a manager would be fired if they went against their owners wishes, a CEO is similarly subject to their superiors.
If a CEO has very little authority as you claim then what the fuck are they getting paid all that money for?
The way I see it they either run the company, in which case they own the blame for a company’s failures, or they are just a figurehead with no real influence, in which case they don’t need to be paid any more than the actors the marketing team hires to be in their commercials.
It’s actually between those two extremes. It’s in the name, Chief Executive Officer. They’re essentially there to execute the will of the ownership. They manage the company.
edit: To further expand on that, it’s not too different from the executive of a country. While they make a lot of decisions, one thing they don’t deserve blame for is any laws passed by the legislature. It’s not a perfect analogy, but it captures the basic idea.
Excuse me? There is a bit left there on your chin.
If the CEO disagrees with the directions of the board, the CEO has a number of options. They can easily be considered culpable.
A few years ago on a cruise we sat at a table with a doctor who said he was in charge of all United Healthcare insurance approvals. This guy didn’t just mention he had to sometimes refuse people care, he was absolutely giddy about it and took sadistic pleasure in seeing other people suffer. We moved to a different table to get away from him.
I guess we’ll find out eventually, but I’ve got to wonder if the shooter was pushed over the edge after someone close to him died due to refusal of care by United Healthcare.
You should have gotten closer to him, especially while he was leaning over railings.
It can always be off putting how people deal with death.
A doctor has to numb themselves somewhat but like you mention there are those that are too numb.
You need a doctor that is not so affected by the moment, but you also don’t want a sociopath…
Naw, I have worked in EMS. Yeah, there are coping mechanisms that people might find distasteful. Dark humor and all that.
You don’t bring it up in conversation with strangers though. That isn’t coping, that is reveling.
Where did you get the idea this guy was numb?
When people are pushed to the point they have nothing left to lose this kinda thing will happen. I’m sort of surprised this kinda of things doesn’t happen more often to people who make their fortunes off the suffering of others.
I would speculate that if the economy gets worse, recession, job losses, etc., more people might be in a position where they have nothing left to lose.
It’s been reported a lot that more people are reclusive and isolated, less relationships and people having kids. Sure people could just commit suicide, but some might want to go out with a bang.
Seems like we have the potential for this recipe or perfect storm. All depends on how bad things get in the future though. Bread and circuses.
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CEOs of exploitative corporations should take notice.
edit: the fucking mods are out of line.
For real, Right!?
Serious mod abuse in this thread. Removing a lot of posts that don’t actually break any rules.
Like I get that you have to ensure that people follow the rules, but you’re waaaaaay overstepping that line.
Edit: seems to have calmed down a few hours after I posted this, now comments aren’t getting removed unless they actually break the rules, as far as I can tell.
Mostly. I think the mods just got tired and figured they could delete all the comments once the discussion dies down and people are less likely to notice.
Getting to the find out stage.
I’m not gonna celebrate or call for violence, but I am going to say I’m definitely not as bothered by this as I am with the constant cop killings and school shootings.
Late stage capitalism is getting to the terminal stage, I think. Well, it did for this CEO, at the least.
