• undergroundoverground@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    *Invasion --------> liberate

    We already have that one. It’s true too. They’ll liberate you back into the stone ages. They’ll liberate you so hard, your great grandchildren will still feel the pain of it.

  • PugJesus@lemmy.world
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    30 days ago

    Really just outright playing ‘bothsides’ games with Putin’s Russia already. Great.

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    29 days ago

    Haha my dude you are comparing gulags to prison in the USA?

    LMAO 🤣 i don’t want to say Lemmy is disconnected from reality but this kind of posts and the ones blaming Latin Americans and minorities for the election lost just makes everyone here look unhinged

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      29 days ago

      Would you like more information on the guy who died from bedbug bites without being charged or the forced labor or the heat strokes or the murders? What’s specifically not comparable?

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        29 days ago

        Would you like more information of the Soviet gulag system? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulag

        An estimated 1.6 MILLION people died in detention. And that’s not even considering that most of the people imprisoned were just enemies of the Soviet/Russian state.

        How much God damn Russian propaganda are you consuming to consider these things even remotely close? The US prison system is a disgrace, but these are not even remotely comparable.

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          28 days ago

          How much God damn Russian propaganda are you consuming to consider these things even remotely close?

          Shit fuck goddamn bitch ass hell piss your mother cunt fuck ass shit

          I mean, none that I’m aware of. You?

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            28 days ago

            LOL you are literally posting Russian propaganda and you are pretending you’re unaware… Or maybe you really are too dumb to tell. Pretty pathetic either way.

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    On the surface it seems like these comparisons are valid, but there’s truly a world of difference in how America deals with its people.

    The fact still remains that skilled immigrants can come to America and make a life for themselves. It doesn’t matter who they are. Or that non-white or non-Christians can get elected to the U.S. congress.

    America started out with an idealism it’s failing to live up to, and it’s the fault of those who indulge realpolitiks over that idealism. This isn’t an America problem, there’s a rot that’s taken over the soul of humanity. We’re casting aside intellectualism and enlightenment for realpolitiks.

    Make no mistake though, people cannot be trusted so you always have to protect yourself. But there’s no civilization without ideals for humanity.

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      For sure. It’s absolutely valid to criticize the US on all of these points, but when people equate it with what goes on in Russia, it mostly tells me that people don’t fully realize how much worse the situation is in countries like Russia. As someone who was born in an Eastern Bloc country and whose grandparents actually went to jail for their political beliefs, I think it’s good to sometimes remind yourself about how different a life we now thankfully get to enjoy.

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        I’d love to know why some folks downvoted me. I’m an American and have seen it from California to Minnesota to Maine. It’s not an insult to the US. It’s an insult to human beings.

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        Not sure what the downvotes are about - i agree with the above comment. ? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    Gulag’s name means force labor camp, but there is a lot more context to it than that. A gulag is less about labor and conditions and more about it being a hole in the ground at an undisclosed location where people go in and never come out. People that the soviets put in Gulags were sometimes criminals, but they were prosecuted by secret courts after being arrested by secret police during the World War Era and until about 1961.

    Of course the USA absolutely has its fair share of dirty laundry, around the same timeframe they were prosecuting crimes for “Black Laws” and sending them to mines.

    I think that in this regard both countries have made a lot of progress but still have a long ways to go. Also Russia is worse.

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    30 days ago

    Except anybody who shits sideways on the toilet can call themselves an “Entrepreneur”, can’t say the same thing about being an Oligarch.

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      ok, but is it really that easy to shit sideways though? Like are you shitting on a toilet that’s sideways (probably easier), or are you trying to like half-plank laying down on the toilet and shitting?

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    Dont forget, it all starts with:

    Greed/avarice = rational self-interest

    Greed is a character deficit, a personal failing, and a destructive force. We’ve made it our primary practiced cultural value. We deify the greedy instead of condemning them for their greed. We’ve made greed a virtue, having largely abandoned the term in favor of self-masturbatory, complimentary terms for it.

    You don’t get to a place where empathy is a foreign concept, where your capital score is more important than the social contract, without demanding far more resources than most would need for a hundred lifetimes being tolerated by society.

    The Gordon Geckos, Ebenezer Scrooges, and Mr. Potters were cautionary tales about bad people with bad values, villains. Yet Oliver Stone supposedly gets letters from fans who thank him for creating their fictional role model.

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    29 days ago

    invasion -> intervention

    The US has done some bad things foreign policy wise, but none have come close to what Russia is doing in Ukraine right now. Even in Vietnam or was like 1/10th the amount of deaths, and that’s after over a decade of war vs Russia in a few years. Not to defend Vietnam cause that was ridiculously stupid and cruel. But Russia is in fact taking it to a new level in both regards.

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    29 days ago

    Communists, go live in Russia if you think America is so bad. I will take my good quality of life in capitalist America over any communist shithole all the live long day.

    Communism is only good for impractical fantasy ideas and authoritarian shitholes. Prove me wrong if you can.

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      29 days ago

      You just don’t get it!

      People in the Lemmy bubble are smarter and have more self control than anyone in history!!

      They can make it work!!