• Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world
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    “Now that the election is over I think we can finally say that yeah actually Project 2025 is the agenda,” Walsh wrote on X (formerly Twitter).

    In other words “Damn right we lied to everybody! Thanks, suckers!”

    I guess there’s no need to even bother wearing the masks any more. Racism, misogyny and bigotry won the day. Handily. Republicans turned out in droves to sign up for more of it, and Democrats have said they’re willing to accept it rather than elect a black woman. At that point, why even bother hiding it. Everybody knows what it is, and last night they said in pretty decisive fashion that they either actively want it or are at least willing to accept it.

    We did this to ourselves. Trump made some small gains, but Harris underperformed Biden by roughly 10% or so. That means millions of Democrats sat home instead of voting for Harris, which also cost the Democrats some House and Senate seats downballot due to the lower turnout. There was no election fraud. This was a free and fair election. Trump won the popular vote. There are no excuses this time. We. Voted. For. This.

    8-10 million Democrats stayed home. I don’t care if you’re “protesting Gaza”, or if you’re a closeted bigot who would rather sit out than vote for a black woman. Or whatever. If you stayed home rather than vote for Harris, you voted for this. In the words of Rush, “If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice”. And you made that choice knowing it was a de-facto vote for Trump.

    The GOP had a damn good night last night. And they couldn’t even wait 24 hours before cramming it right down our throats. They couldn’t even wait 24 hours to take the mask off. Give it a couple of days and I figure the national abortion ban will be the next thing they don’t bother trying to lie about any more. Why bother trying to hide it? We already said we’re cool with it.

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      A guy at work today said he wasn’t worried about prop 3 failing because he has a medical Marijuana card. Like, dude, you’re a brown man on a list of Marijuana consumers and the modern day nazis just got elected and now wield the fbi and DEA with no guardrails. He’s fucked and he refuses to see it.

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      I will note at the rate things are going Trump has like a 85% chance of beating his 2020 numbers and a small chance of beating Biden’s 2020 numbers. It’s not JUST Harris poor turnout.

      (Also her turnout was only bad by 2020 standards, it’s still higher than John Kerry or Gore or Hillary)

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      Blame everyone but Harris huh?

      She, along with Hillary, never once bothered to try getting Stein voters to switch to her. It was both their downfalls. Trump did all he could to get RFK voters to switch to him.

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        I’m not saying you’re necessarily wrong. But Trump won by far more than Stein pulled away from Harris (Outside of maybe Michigan). Even if she did court those votes, it probably wouldn’t have mattered.

        But last night wasn’t the result of a political miscalculation that they realized in hindsight. She underperformed when compared to Biden by roughly 10%. 8-10 million Democrats that voted last time opted out this time. That’s a shellacking. 8-10 million people said “I’m not going to vote for Trump, but I’d first step aside and let Trump win anyway over voting for Harris.” There was nothing she could have done to win them over. Her campaign was doomed from the start. She just didn’t know it at the time.

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        Stein has well under a million votes, her votes wouldn’t have made a difference if Harris got every single one.

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          Tell that to the person above me. People either voted for Stein or stayed home (since Stein wasn’t on the ballot in many states).

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        …RFK Jr did just as much damage as Stein did and got almost the same number of votes despite being off a ton of important large states. He’s the reason New Mexico isn’t so close it’s a Swing State. It ain’t the greens

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    It’s all Harris’s fault everyone so definitely do not blame the absolute human garbage who didn’t vote even knowing the stakes

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        There’s no way to block 100% but if they went full “fire wall of America”, they could block enough to the 80% of people who don’t know how to use a vpn, it would look like they’re doing something.

        And then you get the added bonus of blocking all those nasty foreign websites talking about freedom, democracy, equal rights and more!

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        Tell you what. I just got a couple boxes of canvas. If they do “ban porn,” I’ll dedicate every one of these brand new canvasses to making erotic paintings out of spite.

        And I mean, I’m not even a porn consumer. I just fucking hate fascists.

        *though I also* happen to enjoy creating suggestive imagery, as well as painting nude figures. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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        Oh, a dedicated and motivated set of xtian nationalists sure could make everyone miserable over it. They elect a fascist dumbfuck and people cannot even fap in peace if it were up to them…you know, “freedom” and “small government” and all that.

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    Now that it’s clear that Harris’s really well run campaign underperformed Hillary Clinton, can we finally end the myth that some failing of her campaign strategy or “likability” was the primary reason for her loss rather than sexism and Comey’s shenanigans? It really seems like a very large number of men just won’t vote for a woman in the US.

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      I mean, her campaign was pretty awful in a lot of ways. It started out strong but since the DNC it was misstep after misstep. I dunno about you, but I love hearing the president say they’ll only be different than Biden, because they’ll have more Republicans in their cabinet. I love hearing they’re going to build the wall. I love hearing them talk all the time about the fact that Cheney endorsed them. I love hearing how profracking they are. And I love their silence on the genocide in Gaza. Certainly, sexism and racism plays a role, but let’s not kid ourselves here.

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      Her campaign was awful. Her whole deal was that she was going to do more of what Biden did. You know, the guy we didn’t want to reelect so she stepped up to run? Also she pushed right the whole time. She gunned for centrist votes. She should have leaned into Walz’s policy ideas on a broader scale. In fact, walz probably would have had a pretty good chance if he were the DNC candidate. She also campaigned in the strangest places. Why on earth did she rally in Houston? She could have gone anywhere in the swing states with the Beyonce performance but she went to a city that was already going to vote blue on a state that has a moonshot’s chance to flip from red. She should have spent more time in GA, PA, and AZ. But hindsight is 2020.

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      No, because the truth is not as simple as that. Dems ran on a terrible campaign again, and lost again. Underselling “our” party’s shortcomings is a surefire way to another loss next cycle.

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      He may not even have been lying. He’s demented, and he didn’t even read the daily white house briefings. There’s no way in hell he’d pick up a 900+ page document. It’s in his Christian Taliban handlers best interest to keep him in the dark. It’s not like his voter base expect him to know what his policies are, because they don’t even know. They’re just voting based on a general vibe (aka feefees).

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        It’s true, his dementia, inate stupidity and lack of interest gives him plausible deniability for many topics.

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    Pretty sure they’re joking. Not sure how much, but that seems to be the tone they’re giving. “Oh yeah let’s do the thing they said we would haha”. It’s not very funny but it’s like someone getting a gun and saying “Time to shoot up a school hurr hurr”

    Not that that makes it any better, but still. Something important to keep in mind, you go blasting this around with “look he said it!” And they’re just going to laugh at you for believing getting upset.

    Edit: I’m not saying that this is okay at all but the guy in the article definitely has the tone of “oh yeah let’s tell them we are gonna start up the murder machine out front” I understand that there are a lot of people that do stick to this rhetoric. But I pretty much guarantee that in the context of this article it’s bait to get people to go “he said he’s gonna start up his murder machine!” And then they’ll go on some rant about liberals or whatever else.

    The guy is still probably an absolute shithole but you need to be able to recognize when they are setting people up for a punchline that furthers their agenda.

    It’s just like the church guys who stand outside with the old “god hates (slur)” signs. They believe it, but fighting them or screaming about it just pushes their agenda. Condemn them, call them out, but hysteria just gives them ammunition.