• Apytele@sh.itjust.works
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    17 days ago

    There’s also practical benefits. As someone without children I’d really like to see more funds and attention paid to education because I’m getting really fucking sick of interacting with stupid people.

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      I’m also sick of stupid people trying to sabotage every good thing about our society.

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      17 days ago

      Pretty much. You aren’t going to get a better outcome with a no-vote or a protest-vote that’s for sure.

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        This is how I feel about it. Even if you don’t think your vote will accomplish anything, do it anyway. Otherwise you’re just doing nothing.

        Do what you can to push things toward the better rather than sit and wait for it.

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    B-but Gaza! I have to make a pointless defiant gesture to pretend I’m helping! Also will Doordash deliver halo polish?

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      I know someone who voted for a third party candidate I hadn’t even heard of (Claudia De La Cruz). Like man you might as well have just left it blank

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    This is the veil of ignorance you can use when considering what a just society should be like when making decisions like voting without knowing where in that society you would be. It’s a tool to help with empathy like the opposite of fear and rage propaganda trying to make you make stupid decisions.

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    17 days ago

    or none of those and vote with compassion.

    compassion > empathy

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        empathy is a double edge sword, often causing more suffering than not. empathy has no morals.

        compassion is love without conditions. compassion does not require feeling what others are feeling in order to understand their suffering.

        compassion is the goal, empathy is the shitty tool that sometimes achieves the goal.

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          empathy is a double edge sword, often causing more suffering than not. empathy has no morals.

          This makes no sense. People have moral systems, empathy is often a component of that.

          compassion is love without conditions.

          No it isn’t. Compassion is about sympathy and pity, and also is without morals. Unconditional love isn’t a thing, and people can act compassionately without loving someone. It also doesn’t require understanding which is vital to resolution.

          compassion does not require feeling what others are feeling in order to understand their suffering.

          Empathy doesn’t require you to feel their suffering, but to simply understand and appreciate it.

          compassion is the goal, empathy is the shitty tool that sometimes achieves the goal.

          Not my goal, seems shitty. Empathy appears to be superior.

          Definitions:

          Compassion: sympathetic pity and concern for the sufferings or misfortunes of others.

          Empathy: the ability to understand and share the feelings of another.

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      Yes. Harris may not be their strongest advocate, but Trump would be 100% okay with completely wiping them out.

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          She most certainly isn’t OK with it. She said she wants to end the war and have peace several times. She is not a sociopath, unlike Trump, so if she had the means, she would gladly stop supporting Israel with guns. Unfortunately, she does not - at the moment. Why does she not?

          Because Israel and Bibi is supporting both Democrats and Republicans in the US elections, and has been for decades (although Bibi naturally leans towards Trump recently, as a fellow autocrat and dictator-wannabe). But Israel is actually lobbying for both sides and partially financing them, as well as having a lot of media under their control that can campaign for or attack any or both of them. They arguably can influence 1-2-3% of voters to swing one way or the other. And that is enough to keep both D and R parties/candidates on their sides, as the gap between the two parties are so small, that those few percents could easily decide the election.

          So what would be a solution? If both D and R are dependent on Israel to win elections, what could be done? Well, if one side would win by a huge margin, bigger than those few percents, than they would no longer need the political support from Israel. Of, course, if this was Trump, he would still support them, because he likes other dictators and wannabe dictators, like Bibi, Putin, Orbán or Kim. They all help each other out against democratic countries.

          But if Kamala would have a commanding win, that would actually enable her to not care about Israel’s political support anymore and do the right thing: end military support for Israel and thus stop the genocide. Let’s hope that she will have this power.

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      Are you gonna vote as if your cousin is Palestinian lmao

      Yes because I know the difference my vote in the presidential election will make to the situation in Gaza is zero.