• LePoisson@lemmy.world
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    23 days ago

    Agree.

    Also people seem to think the head rests are there for you to constantly be resting your head on but they are head restraints.. They’re there so you don’t break your neck if you get in an accident - not to be comfy on a long drive.

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      23 days ago

      This is the correct answer. It’s a safety device, not for resting your head. When the foam is not compressed it is not good neck alignment, but in an accident, your head slams into the foam and crushes it, that’s when your neck is in good alignment, preventing damage.

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      23 days ago

      I agree that the main reason for them is to prevent breaking your neck in an accident. But I have to ask… Why not make something that allows for both? Surely we can make something that helps ease our neck and shoulder muscles for long drives and prevent us from snapping our necks in a car accident from in front or back of us. No?

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        23 days ago

        Those exist in fancier cars. Recently rented a jaguar f-type for a weekend getaway road trip and we noticed after an hour or 2 that the headrests actually were functional and comfy. Why the hell that shape isnt used in a normal seat i have no idea.

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          22 days ago

          I bought little neck cushions for my Passat. I like sitting back and being comfy. I don’t understand how people can lean forward for long trips and some have their head to the steering wheel.

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            22 days ago

            But there are brands of car that dont even make that expensive vehicles at all, and they still have shitty headrests.

      • LePoisson@lemmy.world
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        23 days ago

        Idk I think because of how much force needs to be contained by the restraint it is rigid for a reason. My guess is there is an engineering reason based on physics.

        Also you don’t want people to be falling asleep while driving (anymore than already happens) so maybe that’s a factor too? Like it’s not meant to be a pillow lol

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    23 days ago

    I am very short, and sit up rather straight. My head hits what should be the most comfortable parts of every kind of seating in the most uncomfortable way. This is an accurate representation of the sensation, when curved neck portion ends up at top of your skull, and doubly so, if it’s a bucket seat. Special cushions help, in certain vehicles, which can also alleviate the seatbelt going practically across your throat. Our old Outback is tolerable, which is lovely.

    We have a couple IKEA Poang chairs at home, and I need to make pillow booster-seats for the damned things, or it’s just this image, lol

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      23 days ago

      Yes those Poang chairs hurt my neck so bad, we had to get rid of it as it caused headaches whenever I sat in it. What about Airplane seats they also seem to push your neck forward in an in unergonomic way.

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      23 days ago

      I’m tall and long in the torso. The last serious car accident I was in my head bashed against the ceiling in a frightening way. Or, it would have been frightening if I had any memory of it. I had a brush burn on my forehead which could only have happened if my head was pushed way back from hitting the ceiling. Before you ask, I always wear a seatbelt.

      Anyway, that’s not why I’m replying. I’m generally ok with car headrests, although I usually have to lean the seat back pretty far to just fit in.

      I bought a new office chair. I specifically chose one without a headrest, but it showed up with one anyway. At it’s highest adjustment it sits right between my shoulders.

      The world seems designed to fit such a narrow range of people.

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        23 days ago

        Fact is, if you aren’t in the central bell curve, then you aren’t a profitable sector. Everything is tailored to the average these days in order to have the largest potential pool of customers from which to extract profit. If only one out of every ten people is tall enough to have problems with “regular sized” objects then that means only one out of every ten people are potential customers for your Big&Tall products. 99% of companies will elect to target the other 9/10 instead, even in a saturated market.

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      23 days ago

      We have the Poangs as well, and I can’t recline in them. The only comfortable position is to rip the cushion out and put it on the floor, and sit on the floor. >.<

      I have the seatbelt cutting my neck problem too - and I’m not exactly short. :/

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    22 days ago

    Every is talking about how the headrest it’s made this way for crash safety when it’s blatantly untrue.

    The headrest is designed to protect the heads and neck of the average man, not woman. Decades of crash test dummies have all been modeled on the average height and weight of the male body. This is why women are 47% likelier to sustain a serious injury in a crash.

    Think of the where the headrest is in the optimal position to protect the driver, and then move that a few inches lower. Adjustable headrest often doesn’t even go low enough to accommodate for many women. There is an actual cutoff height where you are just screwed and expected to die more. Not to mention the user error of forgetting to adjust the headrest from the factory setting of accommodating to the average male height.

    This is why so many people are curled up like a shrimp. They are either: short, a woman, or the statistically deadliest of all, both.

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      22 days ago

      A head rest is designed to stop you getting whiplash. How does someone being shorter, make it more dangerous?

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    23 days ago

    I don’t think my head ever touches my headrest when I’m driving. Rarely, I’ll lean back while sitting still, but that’s the only time I’m ever even aware of it.

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    22 days ago

    Often my hair is in a ponytail and it does make it impossible to drive comfortably. Like I have to leave my hair down and windows up to drive comfortably.

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    22 days ago

    Life Pro Tip:

    Take them off and turn them around, so they point backwards.

    Thats what i‘ve done.

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    23 days ago

    It’s designed to be slightly uncomfortable to keep people from falling asleep at the wheel.

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    23 days ago

    This bothers me so much. I know the idea is that if I get rear-ended it would help prevent whiplash. But it feels so uncomfortable that I tilt the seat back. This defeats the point of the headrest and I am sure other saftey features. But if I didn’t I would be constantly annoyed and distracted. That would increase my odds of getting into a forward facing accident.

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    22 days ago

    Does anyone else have the opposite problem? I feel like head rests are always too far back. If I place my head flat against them then more often than not I’m in an uncomfortable driving position because my neck is tilted back and up. I have to lean forward to drive most cars and it really annoys me.

    Edit: I’m starting to think that a lot of you drive with the seat in an upright position. I sit at a slight recline because it’s easier on my back. Maybe that’s the problem. Try reclining more.

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        22 days ago

        But sitting up straight is bad for posture. It compresses your back, which makes the pain worse.

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          22 days ago

          What kind of crack is that? Nobody has ever been told to lean back in a chair. I have however been told to sit up straight.

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            21 days ago

            We all have by our parents, and they were wrong. A 45° angle is ideal because your spine isn’t being compressesed by gravity as much. Just think about it. It doesn’t take a genius to figure out simple physics.

            FWIW, I did have a source, but unfortunately I can’t find it at the moment.

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      22 days ago

      Older cars were like that, but more recently usually have headsets that can adjust forward and back

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        22 days ago

        Define “older”. I’ve never owned a car newer than 10 years old, and plenty of 10-15 year old cars have this problem.

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          That still might fit, or maybe the feature is not as common as I thought. Certainly it varies by manufacturer , with some being more laggard than others.

          My last car I remember not being adjustable was a 1996 Pontiac. It did adjust up-down and was high enough to improve safety rather than risk, but it was too far back and did not adjust front-back so my head would rattle around a lot if there were an accident. I’m pretty sure the Honda, Toyota, and Subaru I had since then all had adjustable headrests. Admittedly I do remember being bothered by something so close until I got used to it, but I knew it was a safety improvement and the front-back adjustment generally allowed me to get it out of the way while minimizing head travel if an accident

          As a taller guy, this is something I especially notice: most of my driving life a headrest would simply break my neck if there were an accident. Having it be high enough to act as a safety feature rather than increase risk, was a huge advance, and the more recent adjustment front-back works much better

          Yet somehow my Tesla fits best of all despite not adjusting at all: neither up-down nor front-back.

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          My old car (2007) had adjustable head rests, my current car (2019) does not. Fortunately its not too bad but I would height adjust it an inch or two higher if I could (just like when I get on an airplane). Weirdly, I was battling a really sore neck for a few months and a couple of road trips (1500 miles each way), actually was pretty comfortable. I didn’t have to lay down for a couple of hours in the middle of the day.

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    23 days ago

    I always lower the back of the seat as much as possible and raise the front as much as possible so I’m planted in the seat. I can pick up both get without sliding out of the seat. Then I recline a little bit so I can rest my head comfortably. I have seen those more modern headrests that seem to stick way out from the seat. Not sure who those are for.

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          Or maybe your expectations are off. Volvos have always been very safe cars. In my 2008 and 2015 Volvos the head rests are “uncomfortable” and immobile. But I, and others who are shorter, can adjust the seat so that it saves my neck in case of an crash. They’re not there to be comfortable, they’re there to save you.

          Edit: fixed “your my express expectations”