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    Not to defend “them”, but I really do believe that very little of this has anything to do with the fact that she’s a woman. It’s a red versus blue thing, democracy versus fascism. At this point, it doesn’t really matter who runs for president, wrt gender or even race. Trump has attacked her race far more than mentioning anything about her gender. Nonetheless, Trump just sees the dems as “the enemy“, and has convinced all of his cultists to view things in the same terms.

    Any other Republican of this current generation would probably attack her on her gender as much as her race, but for some reason, Trump only attacks things he doesn’t understand such as biraciality (biracialness? Biracitude?).

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      Trump and his reich frequently attack her for being a step mother, accuse her of using sex for professional gain, and call her a cat lady. What the fuck are you talking about?

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      While I agree that at its heart it’s a red vs blue issue, I’ve seen more than enough explicitly sexist commentary from Trump supporters, most commonly suggesting that Kamala has attained her status via sexual favors rather than years of public service.

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      I’m sure it has much nuance, but all things being equal. If she were a 45 year old white man, I believe it would be a lot less close.

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      I believe that a lot of it has to do with her being a non-white woman.

      Obviously, something like 30-40% of people had already picked a side and were going to vote either Trump or whoever was not Trump on the other ticket. But, there are still plenty of people in the middle. Given how extreme the US is, the “middle” isn’t reasonable, thoughtful people. They’re all voting for the democrats. It’s racists who don’t think abortion should be banned. It’s sexists who are concerned with corruption. It’s people who are in the alt-right bubble and think that George Soros and Bill Gates are using mosquitoes to infect people with 5G… but who think Trump is a Freemason, so you can’t vote for him.

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      They are new to politics, and are using the only model they find applicable:

      Sports spectating, ala pro-wrestling or college football.

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      To add to that, calling them sexist further entrenches them. A big part of that movement is a reaction to being called sexist, racist, etc… All you’re doing is playing into their own propaganda. That’s why the “weird” moniker was so much more effective.

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    She’s doing better than the old white man who’s been politically powerful for half a century…

    The thing is we could have ran AOC and shed have pissed off exactly as many conservatives, but gotten a whole lot more moderate support and taken votes from Stein

    The biggest problems with Kamala Harris are her policies

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      The biggest problems with Kamala Harris are her policies

      She’s getting my vote in 2024, but I’m not buying the “hold your nose to save democracy” line again in 2028. This sprint to the right she’s pulled in recent months better be to get in the door.

      https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/24/us/politics/kamala-harris-progressives-democrats.html

      As Vice President Kamala Harris makes a broad play to the political center, some Democrats worry that she is going too far in her bid to win over moderates who are skeptical of former President Donald J. Trump. In private — and increasingly in public as Election Day fast approaches — they say she risks chilling Democratic enthusiasm by alienating progressives and working-class voters.

      Damn right she risks it.

      From the same article:

      She has centered her economic platform on middle-class issues like small businesses and entrepreneurship rather than raising the minimum wage, a deeply held goal of many Democrats that polls well across the board. She has taken a harder-line stance on the border than has any member of her party in a generation and has talked more prominently about owning a Glock than about combating climate change. She has not broken from President Biden on the war Israel is waging in Gaza.

      Edit - wow that’s a good article. It says everything that needs to be said.

      “The tent is big enough for a guy who got us into a war with Iraq, and then the tent is not big enough for a Palestinian to speak for two minutes on the D.N.C. stage,” said Ms. Joshi, contrasting the endorsement of Ms. Harris by Ms. Cheney’s father, former Vice President Dick Cheney, with the Democratic Party’s decision not to invite a Palestinian American to speak at its national convention.

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      She passed the bar exam which is known for being an incredibly difficult exam. And defended victims (including sexual assault) by herself in courts for years.

      The Don on the other hand boasted you need to be quite smart to win golf championships and didn’t realize you can’t inject the same stuff you disinfect with to cure COVID (which is common sense).

      His own ex staff calls him dangerous and stupid including Mike Pence. Kamala has the support of her staff and a huge amount of Donald’s too.

      The only one calling Kamala stupid is Trump…

      Wouldn’t you want someone who has comprehensive knowledge of the law running the country, instead of a rapist who is leaking classified documents to everyone he can?

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      You say that as if you would claim that Mr Trump is competent, despite his (presumably age related) mental problems and his complete lack of ability in doing politics

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    Most competent and qualified genocider #girlboss 💕. Her form of genocide is much more elegant than her opponent’s.

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      Cool so I assume you’re voting for Harris then? She obviously is the candidate who would cause less harm to the people of Gaza and Palestinians in general.

      So it’d be pretty dumb to say something like that and then not try to do what you can as an individual to help (by voting for Harris).

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        You assume correctly! Like you, I am simp-pathetic to upholding the genocidal status quo.

        It’d be pretty dumb not to blame anyone except those that nominated Harris, the best and only possible candidate to beat Trump.

        It would be outright dimwitted to believe any other course of action exists besides voting to show one’s undying loyalty to career politicians who uphold the beautiful and completely non-toxic American status quo.

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          Feel free to take a break from the endless sarcasm and let us know what course of action you think people should be taking and what would get them to take it.

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            Circling back to the content of this post, which supposes that Harris has no faults, I suggest and support critical thinking.

            This meme comes from a narrow frame of mind that imagines great differences between foreign policy (where none actually exist) between “sides” and mindlessly upholds a corrupt two party doctrine.

            The idea that democrats are entitled to certain votes emboldened Biden to proclaim African Americans aren’t “black”.

            Take a break from mindlessly accepting a toxic status quo. Stop showing establishment Dems that they are entitled to votes no matter how far right they are on policy.

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              This is what I asked you:

              Feel free to take a break from the endless sarcasm and let us know what course of action you think people should be taking and what would get them to take it.

              You have answered neither of those things. You just told me how you expected people to think. That was not the question. You brought up actions earlier, not thoughts.

              You don’t actually have any actions for people to take, do you?

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                You demand hand holding and spoon feeding.

                You would never be a useful ally, but I’m sure you will serve the status quo establishment well.

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                  You are correct. Contrarianism does not require allies.

                  Allies are needed for people who have plans of action, something you lack.

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              Firat of all, your claim that the original post says that Harris is perfect/faultless, is obviously false. The original post does not make that claim, it doesn’t even imply it. So that’s a strawman.

              Second, your tone of communication strongly indicates a contrarian “holier-than-though” mindset that is typical for teenagers but also people who never grow out of mental self-indulgence. The lack of any sort of substantive argumentation doesn’t help your case either.

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                The original post doesn’t idealistically describe Harris??

                Your patronizing tone of hypocrisy speaks to an un-loved childhood.

                Your inability to recognize a substantive argument is both a personal failing and a projection of your own “contribution” to this discussion.

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      Strange how you only complain about her regarding this issue, when drump would 1000 time worse for the Palestinians.

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        Strange how a woman could complain about her abusive partner, when there exists another man who is “1000 times” more abusive. What a selfish and dumb woman.

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          I didnt infer that and you know it. Strange how you don’t post anything else about being pro-Palestine or raise any other of the myriad of issues they are facing.

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            So the only valid criticisms can come from whoever passes your vaguely defined litmus test of “posting about being pro-Palestine”?

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      Clearly, you’d prefer someone who would attack his own nation’s people. Because obviously, that’s preferable. /s

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        Attacking friendlies is bad, except when Israel does it?

        reported Israeli military attacks against US military and UN peacekeepers:

        October 11, 2024: Israeli military fired on UN peacekeepers in southern Lebanon, injuring two Sri Lankan soldiers and one Indonesian soldier. The Israeli military acknowledged responsibility for the incident.
        October 10, 2024: Israeli military fired on UN peacekeepers in southern Lebanon, injuring two members of the peacekeeping force. The UNIFIL (United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon) reported that Israeli tanks had deliberately fired at and disabled monitoring cameras prior to the attack.
        October 11, 2024: Israeli military struck a UN peacekeeper position in southern Lebanon, wounding two peacekeepers. The UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres condemned the attack, calling it a “grave violation of international humanitarian law.”
        October 13, 2024: Israeli tanks forced entry into a UNIFIL position in southern Lebanon, according to the UN. The UNIFIL reported that Israeli forces had destroyed the position’s main gate and forcibly entered the position.
        October 14, 2024: Israeli military attacked a Christian town in northern Lebanon, killing at least 21 people, including civilians and UN peacekeepers. The UN Secretary-General condemned the attack, calling it a “grave violation of international humanitarian law.”
        
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    People pretending Kamala is competent is almost as funny as people pretending Trump is Christian.

    This is going to be Hilary all over again. Absolutely the same clueless “why won’t you vote for me?! I have such good referrals!!” energy.

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      She’s not even president yet, she passed the bar exam, and yet you’ve figured her out

      Have you got your bar licence? Maybe it makes sense to have someone in charge of the US who has comprehensive knowledge of the law… Just a thought

      Whereas you posted 8500 comments in the past year alone averaging 15 comments per day since joining last year… Which suggests you’re possibly not even employed…

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      Also the implication that a subset of Americans are sexist because they won’t vote for a woman who has expressed unwavering support in continuing a genocide.

      More 👏 female 👏 genocide 👏 perpetrators 👏

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        You do realize that if trump wins, there is a very real possibility he’ll nuke Gaza himself? Because I need to know you understand that. Kamala might not be as harsh on bibi as you’d like, but she’ll work towards a ceasefire. Trump has threatened to nuke foreign countries before but was stopped by his staff like his former chief of staff, john kelly, and his former secretary of defense mark milley (both of whom have recently come out and described trump as a fascist btw). And that staff won’t be around this time to stop him. He’s surrounding himself with sycophants who will blindly do his bidding.

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          ah yes great. we get to select plain or polite genocide. as vile as trump is nuking gaza seems like a mercy compared to the slow death from hunger or burning them alive which is being done with biden blessing and not a single statement from harris to even acknowledge this genocide.

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            Yes, it’s awful you only get two choices and neither will do enough about palenstine. But what about the other issues? Reproductive and LGTBQ rights? Surely Harris would be better on that front?

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              These people don’t actually care about rights. They have found a single issue to throw all of their weight behind and are blind to everything that doesn’t support their position 100%.

              I guarantee you there are large numbers of Palestinians who would not pass their ‘care about genocide’ purity test based solely on things like thinking that Harris will result in less death than Trump.

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                this not a single issue. dnc has become as evil as trump. They don’t care about pregnant women getting shot by snipers and bombed in hospitals and you think they give a rat ass about women’s rights.

                lgbt, abortition are issues in 21st century because of their complicity. a vote for kamal is endorsing gencoide and continue this spiral of decline.

                have you seen the footage of what’s happening in gaza ? how offensive to suggest that they should vote for a candidate who is already been burning their family alive for a year. rot in hell with that mentality.

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                  Thanks for proving my point.

                  You don’t give a shit about queer people’s rights or about brown people getting deported by the millions.

                  Claiming democrats are just as bad as Trump on these issues is a disgusting lie at the expense of queer people.

                  No Democrat would do any of this. Harris certainly wouldn’t:

                  https://www.hrc.org/news/the-list-of-trumps-unprecedented-steps-for-the-lgbtq-community

                  Project 2025 would make that exponentially worse. It would be another genocide. Plus the genocide he’s made clear he’s going to do with brown people by deporting as many as he possibly can, which would literally require concentration camps.

                  You care about one single issue and you don’t even care if Palestinians agree with you on your ideas.

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              i get that for you it’s not vile enough to not participate in this farce but i can’t vote for genocide of innocents who have already suffered decades of apartheid. for me a red line has been reached.

              maybe in next election we will have marjorie vs some another dnc lobby shill where the choice will be just bring back slavery in general or just slavery of colored people. will that be red line for you or will be still saying that it’s awful but dnc is better and it’s the only viable choice ?

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                I’m Canadian so I don’t get a vote. But even in a broken system I would still vote for the lesser. How are things ever going to get better if apathy allows republicans in each time?

                You don’t need to be silent but of the two options who is more likely to be swayed? No matter what it’s going to be one of the two in power.

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                  voting for lesser evil works worked for biden. now dnc is evil as republicans, they just lie about it.

                  my next vote will be only for a candidate who is willing to jail aipac, citizen united and other lobbyists.

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            Now you’re fuckin gettin it! So which one, plain or polite? Those are the only options, it’s happening regardless so which are you picking?