I’ve decided undecided voters have low critical thinking skills and/or are attention seekers

    • BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world
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      At this point the undecideds look 10X dumber than the average MAGA supporter. MAGAs either fell for the rage bait or they think they’ll be rewarded somehow (also falling for that lie since Trump only ever rewards his own family). But to be fucking “undecided” between what I think is a somewhat moderate and capable candidate in Harris and a clearly authoritarian grifter in Trump, you need to be straight up committed to a hospital because you probably have a tumor.

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    I can’t imagine how anyone looks at Trump, and who he is as a person, then compares to Harris and still can’t decide. The choice is so painfully clear, it’s not even a choice. Trump isn’t fit for office at any level, let alone the highest office in the land.

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      Trump isn’t fit for office at any level, let alone the highest office in the land.

      Maybe a job at the DMV? It is an office building, does that count? He might be fit for that

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      I can’t imagine how people could see the dip right after she took back all progressive stances and not understand the easy solution is moving to the left…

      But here we are bro

      It’s 2024 and people constantly do irrational stuff.

      She’s not going to gain any trump voters, there’s zero logical reason for Dems to move to the right. Except they think they can get away with being more to the right.

      If they just wanted to win the election, Kamala would be out there for M4A, legal weed, affordable college plan that fixes the flawed system, and some good ole tax raises for the rich.

      It’s literally that easy.

      Obama wasn’t near that progressive, and he got a landslide and carried House and Senate.

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        She’s not going to gain any trump voters, there’s zero logical reason for Dems to move to the right. Except they think they can get away with being more to the right.

        While I can’t speak on the effectiveness of the strategy, I would point out that Harris et al. aren’t really aiming to recruit Trump voters. They’re more aiming for more traditional Reaganite Republicans, the “never Trump” people. Think of the type of Republicans like Dick Cheney. That’s the type of Republican they’re aiming for. They’re not aiming to convince an active Trump supporter to flip to Harris. They’re trying to get Republicans who don’t want to vote for Trump, who would otherwise stay at home, to instead vote for Harris.

        My own parents fit into this mold. They’re in their sixties and voted for Republicans their entire adult lives, up until 2016. They voted third party in 2016, and in 2020 they switched over to supporting Biden, and now they support Harris and are voting for Democrats across the board.

        Whether appealing to voters like my parents or trying to appeal to younger, more disaffected progressive voters is a better strategy, I can’t say. But the perennial problem of appealing to hard-core progressive voters is that they are incredibly fickle and often engage in self-destructive purity testing. Look at the leftist voters refusing to vote for Harris over the Palestine issue. Far-left voters have a tendency to find any excuse not to vote for a candidate. It’s Palestine this time around, but it could easily be something else. There’s always some issue that the main Democratic candidate has that some leftists will cite as a reason not to vote for the mainline Democratic candidate. In 2024, it’s Palestine. In 2020, it was Biden and the crime bill. In 2016, it was Hillary’s treatment of Bernie. Etc. There’s always a purity test violation a certain segment of far left voters will cite to vote against their own interests. They want a perfect candidate, and they will actively seek out any excuse not to vote for the mainline candidate. As no politician will share 100% of their views, there will always be some reason to not vote for them.

        The reason Democrats often tilt to the right is that voters on the far left side of things are often short-sighted and incredibly fickle. They’re not reliable voters.

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    Holy hell those three people are infuriating.

    “Yeah, he’s a racist and a bigot, but my pocketbook…” Lady, unless you make enough that it doesn’t matter, he’s not going to help your pocketbook.

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      I guarantee that woman has been registered R her entire life, sees why he is problematic on a very superficial level, and is still going to AT BEST abstain from voting but more likely vote for him anyhow.

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        Lynne Kelleher, a registered Republican who voted for Trump in 2016 and for the libertarian candidate in 2020, believes this election comes down to a choice: “Do you vote your pocketbook or do you vote your morals?”

        Pretty much.

        You’re right.

        Edit: I’m agreeing with Thunder, not Lynne.

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    If you saw that debate and came out with, “Hmm, but which one should I vote for?”, just say you’re voting for Trump. Say that shit with your chest, loud and proud. I wanna know what places to avoid.

    He said immigrants are eating people’s pets for fucks sake.

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    I cannot understand these wishy-washy, fencing idiots. Do they live in caves? Not just any caves either, But the one Plato talks about? Seriously WTF is wrong with these people. If you don’t know what Trump stands for after all of these years, and can’t understand what Harris is about, then you seriously should just smack yourself in the face with a cast iron skillet - repeatedly - until either you smash the stupid out of yourself or fall into a coma. I honestly don’t care which.

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      That’s essentially what I told my wife last night. If you’re undecided and watched the debate and still are undecided, just admit you’re a Trump voter.

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        Right, they gray area is so small, it’s practically just a blend line for the huge expanse of black and white on the table for this election.

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    Last night’s CNN interviews with undecided PA voters made me want to weep for the electorate.

    So many of them really were clueless.

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      For what it’s worth, there’s been talk that they’re really having to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find true undecided voters willing to go on TV and be part of these panels. That’s unfortunate in the sense that it suggests there aren’t many actually-persuadable voters out there, but these clowns aren’t especially representative of the general electorate, either.

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    Only way you could be undecided is if you are lying about supporting Trump because you are ashamed to be associated with his name.

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    I just can’t make up my mind on this one… should I eat a salad, or light my testicles on fire? I mean, it’s not that I want my testicles on fire, it’s just that I’m really not in the mood for salad.

    Six one, half dozen the other, ya know?!

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    Undecided to being a racist nazi you mean. I don’t see how a true republican can support such a divisive felony candidate.

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    Need to stop focusing on undecidedvoters and get people that don’t (consistently) vote to vote. If they aren’t decided by now wouldn’t count on them.

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    I know that there are a number of people who simply don’t pay attention and suddenly realize that they have no idea what’s going on when election time comes around. THEY are the undecided voters.

    What you see in the media, however, does not convince me that they are genuinely undecided. I believe that a lot of people claim it for the attention they get. Then we have examples of people pretending even though they are actually part of someone’s campaign.

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    If they took a look at Trump they’d realize he’s a blatant liar and insurrectionist scumbag