Things didn’t end well for the last guy…

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      He’s legally a US citizen by way of his mother.

      Nevermind how much “god damn those evil foreigners are at it again” rhetoric makes me gag. Peter Thiel and Marc Andressen are fully American and they suck just as hard. If anything, the problem isn’t Elon, its Stanford University and the endless line of factory produced insane far-right techbro degenerates that it rolls out which gave us our modern hellscape.

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    President Musk flexing his muscles even before puppet inauguration.

    One thing I wondered is what would happen if Putin and Musk disagree at some point about what Trump is supposed to do? But the answer is actually easy: whoever strokes Trump’s ego better at the time gets their policy through. Trump lives in the moment.

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      I don’t know, I still think Putin has info on Trump that Trump really doesn’t want to be public for whatever reason. So I’m thinking he would defer to Putin.

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        I used to think that, but there’s nothing Trump could have done that the loony right wing public wouldn’t gleefully dismiss as not important. (Well, apart from a lewd orgy with trans Muslim Mexican immigrants, but I don’t think any of those exist, and Trump would just call it faked anyway.)

        Now I think that Putin just rings him up to tell him what a great president he is and all the world admires how strong a leader he is, not like those weak Democrats who (insert policy Putin wants dropped), no, Trump is a strong and courageous leader and everyone can tell how strong and virile he is because he supports policies like (insert policy that Putin wants implemented).

        I mean maybe there’s a video of Trump shouting “Yes, shove that big beautiful black dildo in me harder!”, but I don’t think it’s necessary at all. See how easy it was for the North Korean president to get Trump to completely change direction. He just sweet talked him for a bit. Trump is an absolute sucker for someone he perceives as strong telling him he’s great. American foreign policy is at the whim of any world leader who can make Trump feel proud of himself for a week.

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          Putin probably gave him a few billion to buy him. It’s peanuts money for an oligarch. Putin could reveal the amount and banking details, how much was invested into the different building projects Trump is so proud of.

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          Whether or not the public would dismiss it and whether or not he thinks they would dismiss it are two very different things.

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            Which does point towards some non-hetero sexcapade, because pretty much everything else he’s famous for already having done.

            I still think he’s pathetically easy to manipulate for dictators.

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      what would happen if Putin and Musk disagree at some point

      Nothing significant. Musk is running on a purely American strain of right-wing revanchism. Trying to deflect all our problems onto Evil Foreign Man is a big part of why the country is as fucked as it is today. We simply cannot let ourselves believe that the fascist strain gripping our country by the taint is American born and bred. So every four years, Republicans accuse the Democrats of being Chinese and Democrats accuse the Republicans of being Russian, and then the parties do old fashioned American Protestant Capitalism to the country while we all writhe in torment, looking for someone else to blame.

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    TSA agents are ineffectual on the best of days, but without pay? Between that and the amazing production quality at Boeing I’m quite content to not fly anywhere.

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    Sorry, but unemployed TSA should get no sympathy. In fact, if you want to kill government programs, it should be at the front of the line. Pork barrel security theater bullshit.

    Fuck the TSA and the idiots on power trips working for them.

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      It’s not the employees’ fault, saying they should get no sympathy is a dick move.

      That aside, I agree the TSA is a great example of the kind of spending that needs cut and the department dissolved.

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      How about their kids? Should they get sympathy? Because these people won’t be able to feed them.

      Government shutdowns affect far more than just the employees, and in this case those employees are literally being used as slaves. Maybe that deserves sympathy too… unless you think “idiots on power trips” deserve to be enslaved. I don’t think anyone does personally.

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        Do you have that same attitude towards ICE agents kids?

        People lose their jobs all the time and still feed their kids. A government shutdown is a good thing.

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          Yes, I do. Because people deserve to be paid. Not paying someone and forcing them to work has a name. Slavery.

          If you get hired for a job, even if it’s an immoral job, you deserve to be paid. People who work at payday loan places, people who work for TurboTax, people who work on oil rigs, people who work on factory farms and slaughterhouses all deserve to be paid and children do not deserve to suffer because politicians can’t get their shit together.

          A government shutdown is in no way a good thing just because certain government departments you personally don’t like will not pay their employees. There’s a lot of other people who are helpful that also will not be getting paid.

          Or do you think it’s a good thing to not have things like air traffic controllers and food inspectors? If so, you’re a libertarian and you will be very unhappy with Trump’s dictatorship.

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    Remember when the goverment was first shut down in a long time, if ever before, when Republicans thought it would be a good ratfucker move to harm Obama’s presidency, and it blew up in their faces, and our Country went from a AAAA rated borrower to a AAA borrower due to government disfunction? We seriously need a law that prevents this stupid shit from happening again. Maybe if they don’t pass funding, we just renew the last passed funding. It pisses me off so much. Imagine getting paid a significant amount of tax payer money, a life long sipend, and better health care than most the county, and not even doing your job and letting the goverment shut down. At some point here the lawlessness is going to convince enough people that it seriously doesn’t matter anymore.

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      We seriously need a law that prevents this stupid shit from happening again. Maybe if they don’t pass funding, we just renew the last passed funding

      What we do in Australia is of the government can’t pass a budget we dissolve the government and go for elections.
      Clearly the MP are not doing their jobs so make them run for their jobs again.

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      Why doesn’t the “no new wars!” gang cut military spending by 65-80%? Defense readiness doesn’t cost $800B/ year.

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      Maybe if they don’t pass funding, we just renew the last passed funding.

      This is exactly what happened a few days ago in France. While it’s not perfect, it’s still a whole lot better than a shutdown.

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    Ruining the holidays for a bunch of government employees, not just TSA. I am more worried about air traffic controllers, NASA, NOAA, FDA, the VA (yeah they suck, but a lot of people depend on them and making them work unpaid is definitely not going to improve anything), and thousands of other government employees that will go without pay. The longer it lasts, the worse it will be for the economy.

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      Damn. Imagine just showing up to work knowing you won’t be paid, with a bunch of other coworkers who are in the exact same socio-economic hostage crisis.

      Gotta wonder if there’s some kind of organizational remedy. Like… a collection of workers who could all respond together as a single labor unit to demand a different set of policies on pain of withholding their labor until their demands are met.

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        I am old enough to remember when Reagan used military and scabs to bust the air traffic controllers’ strike. Hopefully this time people won’t cross picket lines.

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          There’s no picket lines, because there’s no organizing and no threat of a strike. Reagan did his work and Clinton/Bush/Obama/Trump/Biden made sure it stuck.

          More likely what we’re going to see isn’t a single unified organized effort, but a bunch of individuals just walking off the job or phoning it in because they’re too demoralized to continue doing these thankless jobs. Then we may well still need to send in the military as scabs, just on a more permanent basis, since military scabs can’t legally quit.

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            Mandatory military service in exchange for free public education is already being floated. Canada should build a wall and make America pay for it, cause they are about to have a serious illegal immigration problem.

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              Mandatory military service in exchange for free public education is already being floated.

              Excited to see the biggest rug-pull in US history when that back half fails to materialize.

              Canada should build a wall and make America pay for it

              The Canadian far-right is such a fucking joke. They want to be American so badly. Far from building a wall, I suspect they’ll be the ones shoving open the gates if we ever get a President deranged enough to try an annexation.

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                  Two sides of the same coin. The distinction between the two is primarily whether you consider the information conveyed beneficial or nefarious.

                  Either way, Americans are already the most propagandized people on earth. You don’t need to send people to college to indoctrinate them. You’ve got consumer-grade mass media doing the job just fine.

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    How bout they just dont show up? The TSA is a fraudulent agency anyway. Pre-9/11 security worked just fine.

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      It’s a thing that’s been happening a lot over the past few years where US politicians refuse to sign bills that approve government spending (such as continuing to pay government employees) until their demands about some unrelated thing are met.

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    I hope that US citizens will remember who caused the chaos out of pure spite when the next election comes around.

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      Remember? Mmmmwwwwhahahahaha!

      Not a chance, not with the publics goldfish like memory span and media companies pushing their narrative.

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        Not unlikely, indeed. Sorry for you, chaps. We went through this about 80 years ago, and we mostly learned our lesson.

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    Did we not abolish the TSA yet? Funny how we’re always losing ground on everything.