Summary
The Supreme Court is reviewing whether the FDA unlawfully blocked over a million kid-friendly flavored vape products, which critics say fuel youth nicotine addiction.
Despite FDA bans, flavors like fruit and candy dominate illicit vape sales, with 1.6 million minors using such products.
Vape companies argue flavored e-liquids help adult smokers quit, but the FDA counters that their evidence is insufficient to outweigh youth addiction risks.
A lower court sided with the companies, and the Supreme Court’s ruling, expected by June 2025, could reshape vaping regulations.
Leave people the fuck alone.
Approve whatever health products and food you want, leave us to our drugs.
We don’t have anything the fuck else. You want to stop kids vaping, go be a fucking parent and quit gooning while your kid browses TikTok.
Hi Philip Morris
Altria, actually. Phillip works on Fridays.
If you ask adults who smoke if they were to switch to e-cigarettes what kind of flavors are they interested in, the majority of responses are tobacco flavor.
Oh, bullshit.
A smoker would definitely want to switch to their tobacco flavor
However,
A smoker that tries tobacco flavor does not want to switch to tobacco flavor
Smokers enjoy their cigarette’s flavor. If they could just get it in a vape many would.
Expecting a smoker to be like “I wish my cigarette tasted like Mint Mojito”. Is crazy.
So I do believe that the majority of the responses are tobacco flavor
Just doesn’t mean what they think it means
Many would just try tobacco flavor, hate it, and move back to cigarettes.
Never cared for vaping or e cigarettes, but I recently stopped smoking cigarettes again and haven’t had one in about 3.5 weeks even though I have a pack in the car, and usually have one in my pocket when walking around. I have been using fruit flavored vapes this time. If they just tasted like real cigarettes I would not use it, id definitely go back to smoking. What’s the point then. Id be more likely to try out nicotine oils at that point you just put on your skin, but I doubt they would do me much good because a lot of it for me is about having something in my hand to toy around with. There was a period I quit drinking for 6 months, still went to bars to socialize and such, just drank gingerale or something I could pass off as a drink so it didn’t get questions and I could toy with it. Fidget spinners and shit never clicked for me.
That said, I’m sure they get more people to use them than normal cigarettes do, they taste good, and don’t smell bad.
My question more so is… What is the court deciding? It’s either does the law prohibit them or not, and is the law legal without an amendment or not. It should have nothing to do with if more people get addicted or if companies say it helps people get off cigarettes. Those are distractions from legislation.
Judges say: it says 12 It doesn’t matter if 12 is better or worse for our society, what matters is a judge says it is written as 12.
If the population believes 12 is not the best answer, then our representatives write an amendment or law that says 17.
Asking the courts to approve things on moral/ ethical standings is directly conflating the courts to use bias and undermining the government process/branches created to ensure it doesn’t all fall apart like it is.
“For the kids” strikes again!
It won’t stop them. They’ll find ways around it instantly or go for other alternatives.This kinda shit always pisses me off because if you actually look up the statistics for the use of tobacco products over the years, we’ve been seeing a steady decline since the 90’s. So I’d like to counter your counter and say where is the actual data showing the increase in tobacco products among the youth? All you’re saying is that sales are up. And as someone that switched to vaping after 15 years of smoking, I’m calling bullshit on the “most adults prefer tobacco flavor” claim you’re making. I’ve even asked the dude that runs my local vape shop what the most popular flavor was when I was looking for new flavors to try and it definitely was tobacco flavored. Even my 70 year old mom who smoked for 50 years didn’t even go for tobacco flavor.
Kids are still gonna vape regardless of flavor. It’s the nicotine that’s the problem. That shit is so addictive it could taste like literal ass and people would still use it. Smoking doesn’t taste good but kids have been doing that for years.
I’ve found that the whole asinine idea of “adults don’t like sweet flavor” is pervasive even beyond vapes. I had to specifically ask my dentist for the “flavored” toothpaste thing they use on deep cleaning because they assume all adults just default to mint or whatever.
This kinda shit always pisses me off because if you actually look up the statistics for the use of tobacco products over the years, we’ve been seeing a steady decline since the 90’s. So I’d like to counter your counter and say where is the actual data showing the increase in tobacco products among the youth?
Five seconds of Googling will find those results for you.
The TL;DR is that the 2024 numbers are down significantly from 2023, and that much of that decline is attributed to bans on certain vaping products. But in many years prior, usage was on the rise. For example, in high school students, use of any tobacco product rose 38% from 2017 to 2018 alone.
Hey early 1900 welcome back. Can’t wait to see more cigarettes commercials coming out as well.
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