Based on the safety plan including “installing a location tracking app on the child’s phone”, the kid has a phone and could easily call for help or be called if there was a concern.
Children used to ride bikes much farther then a mile without even a quarter in their pocket to pay for a phone call.
Never needed money when you could call collect and when prompted for a name you gave a speedy, “mom pick me up at the mall!!” And of course she’d decline the call.
Remember the Duracell ad?
I started walking to school when I was eight. My parents made sure I knew the way and that was that. And on our bikes we went wayyy farther than a mile unsupervised
Do you visit them in jail?
A lot of us walked/biked to our grade school as well. I can’t remember which grade I started walking, but I was definitely doing it in 4. I’d wager even grade 3 but can’t be 100% sure.
On the weekends, it was routine for me to hop on my bike once my chores were done and just take off. The rule was just had to be home by dinner time, or call from whichever friends house I was at if I couldn’t make it back in time. No cell phones.
Here we have 3 year old kids walking to kindergarten unsupervised.
All of Gen-X would like a word…
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Really? They’re generally pretty quiet and forgetable.
A few days later, DFCS presented Patterson with a “safety plan” for her to sign. It would require her to delegate a “safety person” to be a “knowing participant and guardian” and watch over the children whenever she leaves home. The plan would also require Patterson to download an app onto her son’s phone allowing for his location to be monitored. (The day when it will be illegal not to track one’s kids is rapidly approaching.)
Of course there’s a grift train. I’d be very curious to know more about that company, its owners, and its financials.
Also tagging @abucci@buc.ci (can someone tell me how to do that right?). Seems like something that might interest you, re: our recent conversation.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Adam_Walsh
This is what started this panic. A TV movie dramatization from 1983. At this point current parents largely weren’t born yet so they don’t even know how it started, they’ve just been raised into believing this is normal. It’s not normal.
It’s also because most suburbs don’t have sidewalks and cycle paths and often lack safe crossings. Residential roads are so wide that drivers speed all the time. So kids have to be chauffeured around. Since they can’t even walk or cycle to school or soccer practice safely. That’s how it became the norm for kids to never go out alone. And people wonder why kids stay indoors all the time and play videogames or doom scroll on social media.
I think the real origins come from “do you know where you’re children are?” PSA campaign during the Atlanta Child Murders in the 70s. My parents said they remember the whole country started locking their doors and were crazy about keeping their kids inside.
So the PSA wasn’t intended for that. It actually kind of only shows up late at night after most cities curfew and is supposed to be an anti-deliquency message, lol. The Atlanta Child murders are the other high profile case that happened right around Walsh’s murder though. Both popped in the national news in around '81.
What’s important about the Atlanta Child murders is they were ALSO dramatized in 1985 after the success of the Walsh dramatization( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Atlanta_Child_Murders_(miniseries)). It was even more sensationalized and was specifically designed to fuel the panic. That’s why I consider the Walsh precursor really the watershed point. It was, however, gradual from the '60s as the news media really found out how to exploit it.
See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_children_panic for a more complete overview. You’ll see this is also intimately linked to Reagan, the satanic panic, homophobia, and the political right.
I mean, kid really did get killed… Weird to call it A TV dramatization.
It was the dramatization that did it though. That and John Walsh testifying to Congress with way off base figures about the dangers to children. The moral panic was media driven for ratings.
What in the sweet ever loving fuck is this shit?
State mandated helicopter parenting?
The app they have to agree to use is “donating” to the police department… maybe, I dunno, but I wouldn’t be surprised if…
From a boring dystopia to a holy fuck that’s scary dystopia.
That would be admitting this country ain’t safe enough for a child. Doomer world
Imagine getting jailed unless you ground your kids 24/7. Pretty sure that used to be a punishment for kids, not a requirement.
I know this is probably not possible if I still wish to use English online, but does anybody know how to filter out news specifically form America? It’s becoming less and less relevant to my life as America is becoming more and more like Russia. It’s like yea, I know, the people are literal fascists, any additional details are just depressing.
I had filtered loads of buzz words before I left reddit. Now going on without being signed in is nausea inducing. Block Trump & Elon for sure.
I always felt reddit needed a grouping mechanism. I never in my life want to see anything related to baseball on my feed but I would have to block every one of their teams to make it work. Same goes for anime or manga or hentai or whatever all those drawings are.
Yeah like as if God forbids any kids run around without being continuously tracked by Life360.
My kids of 7 and 10 ride to school through the city (it’s about a mile away, but my daughter went to another school 3 miles away before.
When we got to this new school, I rode with them for a month using different routes and shouting “look left”, “stop here”, as they weren’t looking. Once they were able to lead me to school and back without complaints from mybside for a few times, I let them do it themselves. We just take turns kicking them out in the morning to ensure they’re on time. It works, and they will grow into independent people.
I was cycling wherever the fuck I wanted when I was a kid. I’m fine.
For the context, we’re in Denmark, and I’m originally from RussiaReported to police for walking less than a mile into town on a road that was 25 - 35 mph speed limit…
I’m not saying this didn’t happen, but I’m skeptical that it happened how it’s being reported. It seems the only details are coming from the mother and her attorney, which is a red flag to me. It also sounds a lot like the self reported “discrimination” that some fundamentalist Christian influencer families have claimed, when they were indeed neglecting/abusing their children. In particular the Lott family (AmericanFamilyRoadTrip on socials) who live in a bus with their 8 children, don’t get them medical attention unless forced, and recently got a “parents rights” attorney who sounded a lot like the attorney in this article.
I also find it odd that the sheriff of a town of less than 400 people would cause waves like this over an unfounded claim from a stranger. I’m curious to know what all this safety plan entails, because it could be a very reasonable plan and it’s likely that DCFS just has to meet certain criteria before they can close the case.
Again, not saying it didn’t happen, but the story seems like a good candidate for “missing reasons.”
the story seems like a good candidate for “missing reasons.”
Which is interesting as it’s coming from reason.com
There’s another fundamentalist influencer family, a conservative wannabe Eminem and his disturbingly meek wife. They also have a gaggle of children and have been investigated by DCFS. Oh and then there’s the family that Shaq buys stuff for all the time, and the one whose oldest son is in prison for possession of CSAM, and the family whose grandparents were literal Nazis.
These people all know each other, have all kinds of cronies, and spread all kinds of misinformation. I wouldn’t put it past any of them to make a fake “news” website to back up their own claims, and name it something dumb like reason.com 😂
As another commenter pointed out Reason magazine has been around for decades. It’s a libertarian publication so I don’t trust them to not push views a 14-year old would think is deep but any well-adjusted adult could see right through, but it isn’t like they are some fly-by-night website.
Thank you for sharing, but now I’m even more suspicious. Libertarians aren’t exactly known for their fact checking abilities, and I can’t find this news story on websites that seem any more reputable.
This post and posts like this should be taken with a big grain of salt.
There’s not enough information supplied.
