If we get a next time, everyone had better show up in the primaries to vote for the Bernie-equivalent or further left. If I’m the only person under 60 at my primary polling place again, I’m gonna snap.
Centrists don’t win primaries because of Centrist Magic™. They win from disengagement of the young and high participation by fucking dinosaurs who still think it’s the 1980s.
Centrists don’t win primaries because of Centrist Magic™. They win from disengagement of the young and high participation by fucking dinosaurs who still think it’s the 1980s.
And also by a pervasive campaign of suppression and character assassination of leftist candidates by corporate news media.
There was no primary. Biden won the farce of one that featured no competing candidates even appearing on a significant number of state primary ballots. And even that was thrown out the window. You’re fucked again in 2028 if you put any amount of faith in that shitshow.
I meant the 2020 primary.
I’ve got an idea, and history would agree.
Violence.
I mean, that only works if you have a substantial base of supporters who are already willing to endure significant hardship for the cause.
Considering we lack a substantial number of people who are willing to turn out for one day just to vote, I’m thinking that’s putting the cart before the horse.
I really don’t like that you’re right, but you’re right. Let’s just hope that it will be at some point.
That’s a monkey’s paw wish right there. Electoralism was our alternative to blood in the streets, I would really prefer no blood in the streets.
Me too, but the rich are using violence against us along with the worst political tactics. It’d be pretty hard to convince me it isn’t necessary at this point.
I’m worried more that it won’t be effective. Power is a numbers game, be it guns or dollars or people. Presumably, the strength of the left is that, properly communicated, it’s the inevitable will of the majority of the people. That’s the weapon.
The problem with the left isn’t that the message is wrong, it’s that it’s not being communicated effectively to the people that empower it. If the people were unified, and organized, nothing could stand in their way.
I can’t argue with that, I guess the next question is how we can get there.
What can we do?
can I please get off the no-merry-go-round? I’m starting to get dizzy!
Be a part of that change. Run for local office and or encourage other progressives around you to do the same
Change quite often starts locally and flows up. Those in the national party very usually come from state offices and work their way up. Make that pool of people as progressive as possible
Make no seat uncontested
Organize in every place you can. Beyond just elections, organize for unions, organize to protest, organize to stand with your community, do not given in to the complacency that the far right wants you to have
Power is not be given freely, you have to fight for it. That fight lives on and is worthwhile. Things will get worse before they can get better. But we can lay the groundwork for the future to be better
Too bad I don’t have the temperament to be in local government. I’ll start flipping tables.
honestly the left needs more table flipping candidates.
There is a large, young population that are progressive and angry. They want to see that reflected in the people they elect. They want to see passion in leaders that will end with positive changes. Yet instead we get milquetoast, bland middle of the road candidates that are not inspiring or interesting.
This sounds like a solid plan! It will for sure be a uphill battle where I live. (MT)
No, now eat your damn dirt soup and be happy about it.
You can get off the carousel when it shatters into a million deadly fragments of shrapnel.
Rollin til the wheels fall off!
Poland is still inaccurate, as it was when it was posted here the last time
Edit: I tried to search for my comment last time but I didn’t find it. So short summary: In Poland, an authoritarian far-right party ruled for a long time that acted heavily against the rule of law and separation of powers (they replaced their Supreme Court and discharged judges on other courts that didn’t rule as they wanted) and was very anti-democratic (they turned the national TV into a propaganda broadcast). Amid huge protests, the opposition won the election, and while it is not a very left coalition, they were pretty successful in reversing many of this horrible things, e.g. taking back control of the TV broadcast with a completely new team. They couldn’t undo everything as the president with a veto power is still from the old party but with the president elections coming soon this could change soon. And it’s generally very euphoric and awesome what happened because it was really terrible what the other party did to this country.
I appreciate that this diagram shows that many countries around the world are going through this now. Though I disagree that the centrists aren’t tackling the social problems. They’re also not tackling the economic problems.
This is true but boy it’s the anti-headline.
The far right refused to tackle the underlying issues and vowed to make them all worse. This is overwhelmingly the biggest issue. It becomes a far bigger problem than the underlying issues.
But it’s good to be aware of what the meme points out, too. Been going on too long.
Argentina was fucked before the current government made changes, which are actually starting to show improvement. Yes he cut tons of social programs, but they were also staring down Zimbabwe levels of inflation.
Liberals: Post meme outlining why current system doesn’t work
so anyways, I kept voting Dems…
Far leftists/socialists: post memes outlining why they’re going to pout and not vote knowing that the 100,000,000 votes in 2016 got trump elected…
so anyways, this is all everyone else’s fault!
