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    Its still a tight race in the swing states. Crazy to think anyone supports this guy. He has no respect for the country, or anyone in it. There’s so many people blindly voting against their own interests. I just don’t get it.

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      25 years of organized propaganda (fox news, talk radio, etc.). I live amongst Trump supporters, they truly believe prices will come down and they will make more money.

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        my mom believes that we’re being “invaded” by illegals. i said, “stop using that term. it’s offensive and racist.”

        “that’s what they are. they broke the law,” she shot back.

        “and you’re offensive and racist. and i suppose that means you’re an illegal, too, since you jaywalked earlier?” I replied.

        “illegal immigrants are felons!” she shouted at me.

        “like Trump? so, he’s a 34-times illegal, then? and you’re voting for him?”

        “that’s different!” she screamed

        there’s no reasoning with these people

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            Third generation draft dodger.

            His grandfather escaped Germany so he didn’t get drafted for WWI.

            All in the family.

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          It’s my understanding that illegally entering the country is a misdemeanor, and illegally reentering the country is a felony. It is an amplifying action for a huge number of other felonies though. Am I wrong? 8* Usc section 1325 vs 8 Usc section 1326.

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        Fox News is absolutely one of the cause, but we can’t ignore Rush Limbaugh. He corrupted SO MANY people over the years, it’s absurd. I feel like a lot of people forget about that.

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        yep, racism is a helluva drug. It’s the poor brown peoples’ fault, not the billionaires who actually decide what happens.

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      Conservatives live on symbols. The Bible, the Constitution, the flag. They don’t even understand them and don’t need to because it’s really all about their emotions. They are in it to win and to feel confident, not to rule.

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    I’ve been saying since the primaries that the best plausible scenario was for Trump to get the nomination, then botch the election and drag the weirdos and loyalists in his party down with him.

    Trump has spent years purging anyone that was moderate, even slightly principled, or just willing to put the good of the country ahead of his gigantic ego. Not to mention the way they treat the party’s warchest as their personal piggy bank, and it’s rank and file staff and volunteers as disposable. He’s made a party that’s blindly loyal to him, and which is a huge threat to the country, but which is ultimately far less effective as a party.

    A more normal candidate would likely be dominating the race given public opinion on the current administration and the economy, to say nothing of the obscene amount of money being thrown around. But instead, Trump looks like he will cause the Republicans to underperform for the fourth time in a row.

    If Trump loses dramatically enough and drags his people down with him, the party will likely collapse in on itself as opposing factions get locked in a power struggle. Plenty of big donors just want lower taxes and to not have to deal with regulations, and they will probably want to shift the party away from the MAGA weirdness and back towards something normal that isn’t going to alienate voters on all sides of the aisle. I wouldn’t be surprised if a few of the more prominent anti-trump Republicans suddenly got a big boost in support, and a lot of Trump’s parasites suddenly find themselves getting driven out.

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      Best scenario for who?

      I think the best scenario for everyone is that Trump loses, Dems win Congress control back, and Harris absolutely fucking nails this job and gets another term.

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        Your scenario and mine would go hand in hand, we’re just focusing on different things.

        My point was that the Republican party would benefit from a significant change in direction back towards something more normal. And the country as a whole would be better off as well, because there aren’t many upsides to teetering on the edge of a fascist dictatorship, and anything that moves us away from the precipice is a good thing.

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    It goes to show how republicans are cowards. They don’t want the wrath of MAGAs so they nominate him hoping he’d just lose and go away.

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    They will be better off, but not just if Trump loses, they have to de-MAGA the whole party, then they’ll be in good shape.

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      I saw a clip of an ex-republican voter saying the republican party is like a mattress with bedbugs. You can’t save it by spraying with insecticide, you have to take it out and burn it and buy a new mattress. I thought that was a pretty good analogy, but the bedbugs/magas will still be out there and there’s a huge number of them.

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    The Reaganites are eager to get back to the business of cutting corporate taxes and welfare and the highly profitable war on peace. They don’t wanna deal with Chumps drama anymore.

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    I’m subjected to a few hours of Fox News/right-wing YouTube a week, and it’s certainly felt like the vibe has shifted. Reading between the lines with some of the talking heads, it sounds like they’d rather Trump lost and the GOP made gains in both the House and the Senate.

    They can still run the party status quo ante that way for at least a little while. If Democrats get through voting rights legislation, the GOP will be forced to come up with an actual party platform beyond “loot the treasury.”

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      It’s also what the dems are playing into by chasing the center and the voters who are on the fence to swing the top of the ticket, but don’t support downticket candidates. If the dems want anything more than the white house, they need to excite their base. Trump is trying to scare her away from being a progressive by calling her “Comrade Kamala”.

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    True, because they would be better off abandoning fascism. Of course, they’ll continue to slavishly follow him until he dies whether he wins or not.