Sure, crazy video, but you don’t know whether his girlfriend wasn’t raped and killed by Hamas on October 7th last year. Don’t just judge people from bad times they’re having, as hard as that may seem.
So hypothetical raped & killed girlfriend by Hamas = has a right to shout at a volunteers for a UN charity organisation stopping kids from dieing of starvation and disease?
Be careful you don’t break your spine bending over that far backwards to excuse his behaviour.
Then unsubscribe and block this community. If you don’t like reading peoples commenting on a public freakout then… don’t read them?
Or is there something specific about this instance that’s triggering for you? Perhaps it’s just yet another comment you’re being instructed to leave by your boss or server.
Idk I’m just here for the freak-outs because people’s behaviour when irrational and angry is interesting to me.
Edit: also it’s not an explanation of the situation it’s your hypothesis you’re choosing to project onto this situation. Again who knows why you’re choosing to do that, only you I guess.
How can people judge you for your defense of him, let me explain it to you all, they might have deep seated fantasies of being trained by large groups of Israeli soldiers and for their fantasies to come true they need to go around justifying disgusting behavior. I’m not defending the guy explaining the disgusting actions just explaining how they could have a good reason to with a story I made up in my head.
Yeah, but many were. Just like 60k Palestinians were killed. So many people are traumatized, what I am saying is exactly what you are: stop fabricating narratives from a few seconds of someone’s bad day. You know nothing.
sure you also dont know whether the girlfriends/wives/children of the Hamas members weren’t shredded to pieces by Israeli bombs before they joined Hamas
A crazy fucking comment, right? Eh. I tried to make a point about not judging people before you know their history, but did so very badly, I guess. Should I delete the comment? What do you think?
No, don’t dirty delete just because you got downvotes. Instead open your mind to the replies and try to understand why you got so many (hint: It’s because you were trying to excuse a violent assault, by an obviously hateful person, using lies promoted by an army that’s currently committing genocide).
Hahaha no, you should let your comment stand. I did not try to excuse his actions, that guy was acting like an asshole, but I did want people not to judge someone - which, in a court of law, only happens after consideration of someone’s circumstances.
Hamas’ horrible and violent acts, however, are not lies promoted by any army. Does the Israeli army promote lies? Probably. But not that terrorist organizations are despicable, that doesn’t need to be lied about.
Sure, crazy video, but you don’t know whether his girlfriend wasn’t raped and killed by Hamas on October 7th last year.
This is saying “hey don’t judge this guy attacking random unicef workers unconnected to the people he hates while spewing hate. He might be having a hard time”.
You display no empathy for the people experiencing this assault, only for its perpetrator. Your further opinions regarding genocide can be inferred from there.
Thing is, adults, like properly emotionally mature people, don’t attack random people on the street because they’re volunteering to raise funds for an absolutely gigantic organisation to help people. I used to work for a Croatian man and his brother in law. They fought in the Bosnian conflict, and both ended up working for a series of mercenary outfits after. The levels of PTSD in these guys was…honestly…kinda fucked. I worked with them for the better part of 10 years. Met as many of their families that survived. They were adult enough to hire a few Bosnian guys as subcontract, we’d go for drinks end of the week. And these Bosnian guys were in some of the same battles as my boss and his BiL, literally trying to kill each other. What the fuck did those UNICEF people do to fucknuts? Exist? Fuck him.
Look, I get it. I read through this thread, and I get the point you’re making, absolutely.
Always, always remember that we’re all human and prone to horrible errors of judgement. We don’t know the dude, we don’t know his story that led up to this.
What you seem to be missing is that a past trauma is no more or less likely than a neutral or positive past. None of those excuse assault and battery. You can absolutely judge a person based on their actions. We do it all the time in jury trials. Him having had some kind of suffering related to Palestine or Hamas wouldn’t mean he wasn’t guilty of assault and battery, though it might mitigate things for sentencing.
Would those UNICEF workers now be justified in going somewhere, screaming at some Israeli bank teller and head butting them? No. And I think you know that.
I applaud your compassion. We should always consider such things in forming opinions. We also do not have to forego judgement because of that compassion.
Here he is, guys. Lol. What the fuck does a UNICEF worker have to do with Hamas? How is this normal behavior anywhere? That dude should be arrested. I’m guessing he’s more of the type of guy that spends bad times around. It may be the I’ll fuck you in the ass or the headbutt. Idk.
Sure, crazy video, but you don’t know whether his girlfriend wasn’t raped and killed by Hamas on October 7th last year. Don’t just judge people from bad times they’re having, as hard as that may seem.
So hypothetical raped & killed girlfriend by Hamas = has a right to shout at a volunteers for a UN charity organisation stopping kids from dieing of starvation and disease?
Be careful you don’t break your spine bending over that far backwards to excuse his behaviour.
It’s not about excusing, but explaining. None of you know what any of those people did or who they are. This is just an online pillory.
Then unsubscribe and block this community. If you don’t like reading peoples commenting on a public freakout then… don’t read them?
Or is there something specific about this instance that’s triggering for you? Perhaps it’s just yet another comment you’re being instructed to leave by your boss or server.
Idk I’m just here for the freak-outs because people’s behaviour when irrational and angry is interesting to me.
Edit: also it’s not an explanation of the situation it’s your hypothesis you’re choosing to project onto this situation. Again who knows why you’re choosing to do that, only you I guess.
Judging by the guy screaming “Say Palestine one more time” for the entire video, I would assume they mentioned Palestine.
How can people judge you for your defense of him, let me explain it to you all, they might have deep seated fantasies of being trained by large groups of Israeli soldiers and for their fantasies to come true they need to go around justifying disgusting behavior. I’m not defending the guy explaining the disgusting actions just explaining how they could have a good reason to with a story I made up in my head.
Nah, Imma judge him. Zionist mind virus got him
And you don’t know that she was, so don’t fabricate narratives to justify other people’s shitty behavior.
Yeah, but many were. Just like 60k Palestinians were killed. So many people are traumatized, what I am saying is exactly what you are: stop fabricating narratives from a few seconds of someone’s bad day. You know nothing.
You seem to know though. That there might be some excuse for head butting unicef people on the street. Must be a fine world you live in
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Right
So give me a few examples of what might warrant the head butting?
I’m gonna take a wild guess and say someone mentioned Palestine.
No you haven’t and no they aren’t.
sure you also dont know whether the girlfriends/wives/children of the Hamas members weren’t shredded to pieces by Israeli bombs before they joined Hamas
I’m definitely judging a person that tries to trip and headbutt strangers on the street. That person is not okay to be in public.
Also, everyone let’s just ignore this genocide sympathizer. It’s probably a bot or a paid troll
Your comment has 50% more downvotes than my post has upvotes. In some way that is impressive.
A crazy fucking comment, right? Eh. I tried to make a point about not judging people before you know their history, but did so very badly, I guess. Should I delete the comment? What do you think?
No, don’t dirty delete just because you got downvotes. Instead open your mind to the replies and try to understand why you got so many (hint: It’s because you were trying to excuse a violent assault, by an obviously hateful person, using lies promoted by an army that’s currently committing genocide).
Hahaha no, you should let your comment stand. I did not try to excuse his actions, that guy was acting like an asshole, but I did want people not to judge someone - which, in a court of law, only happens after consideration of someone’s circumstances.
Hamas’ horrible and violent acts, however, are not lies promoted by any army. Does the Israeli army promote lies? Probably. But not that terrorist organizations are despicable, that doesn’t need to be lied about.
This is saying “hey don’t judge this guy attacking random unicef workers unconnected to the people he hates while spewing hate. He might be having a hard time”.
You display no empathy for the people experiencing this assault, only for its perpetrator. Your further opinions regarding genocide can be inferred from there.
“don’t judge people just because they assault strangers in public” yeah okay
Thing is, adults, like properly emotionally mature people, don’t attack random people on the street because they’re volunteering to raise funds for an absolutely gigantic organisation to help people. I used to work for a Croatian man and his brother in law. They fought in the Bosnian conflict, and both ended up working for a series of mercenary outfits after. The levels of PTSD in these guys was…honestly…kinda fucked. I worked with them for the better part of 10 years. Met as many of their families that survived. They were adult enough to hire a few Bosnian guys as subcontract, we’d go for drinks end of the week. And these Bosnian guys were in some of the same battles as my boss and his BiL, literally trying to kill each other. What the fuck did those UNICEF people do to fucknuts? Exist? Fuck him.
Look, I get it. I read through this thread, and I get the point you’re making, absolutely.
Always, always remember that we’re all human and prone to horrible errors of judgement. We don’t know the dude, we don’t know his story that led up to this.
What you seem to be missing is that a past trauma is no more or less likely than a neutral or positive past. None of those excuse assault and battery. You can absolutely judge a person based on their actions. We do it all the time in jury trials. Him having had some kind of suffering related to Palestine or Hamas wouldn’t mean he wasn’t guilty of assault and battery, though it might mitigate things for sentencing.
Would those UNICEF workers now be justified in going somewhere, screaming at some Israeli bank teller and head butting them? No. And I think you know that.
I applaud your compassion. We should always consider such things in forming opinions. We also do not have to forego judgement because of that compassion.
Here he is, guys. Lol. What the fuck does a UNICEF worker have to do with Hamas? How is this normal behavior anywhere? That dude should be arrested. I’m guessing he’s more of the type of guy that spends bad times around. It may be the I’ll fuck you in the ass or the headbutt. Idk.
Not the first time he’s been a tad one-sided on the issue
https://lemmy.world/comment/12792400
Why can’t you say the same thing about Palestinians?
If my girlfriend was raped and killed by hamas I still don’t think I’d support a genocide against the people who didn’t do it.