While some contractors dismiss the plan as political rhetoric, many say they can’t afford to lose more people from an aging, immigrant-dependent workforce still short of nearly 400,000 people.

Both presidential candidates promise to build more homes. One promises to deport hundreds of thousands of people who build them.

Former President Donald Trump’s pledge to “launch the largest deportation operation in the history of our country” would hamstring construction firms already facing labor shortages and push record home prices higher, say industry leaders, contractors and economists.

“It would be detrimental to the construction industry and our labor supply and exacerbate our housing affordability problems,” said Jim Tobin, CEO of the National Association of Home Builders. The trade group considers foreign-born workers, regardless of legal status, “a vital and flexible source of labor” to builders, estimating they fill 30% of trade jobs like carpentry, plastering, masonry and electrical roles.

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    Here’s the thing these fucking racist shitbags are not telling you. If the country the illegal immigrants came from won’t take them back then the sending country can do shit all to make them. That teams no deportation. No deportation means indefinite detention. Indefinite detention means free labor. I harbor no illusions that this hasn’t been the plan from the start.

    The world is at a tipping point. Do we backslide into slavery and genocide, or do we stand against it? It’s not looking good. I, for one, never thought I would see a time when Americans would so blindly goose-step their way into fascism.

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      Umm you don’t have to take back your citizens? Are you sure?

      I read a great legal comment once about how revoking citizenship sounds cool but is really bad for pretty much exactly this reason. You’re left in this weird legal limbo with no country to go to (in that case to face criminal legal process).

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        Here in the UK there have been a few cases of people of people who scampered off to join Isis etc who have had their citizenship removed and are unable to return to the country. I’m not a law-knower but I think this is pretty legally iffy, it certainly happens though.

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          Well did they have dual citizenship? That’s different than illegal immigrants who don’t have dual.

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      From a German perspective you’re almost at the end of your slide.

      I’d never thought I’d live (long) after ww2 and experience a similar thing elsewhere during my lifetime. Yet here we are.

      Even if Trump doesn’t win (or especially - not meaning he should, though) I assume very bad things coming.

      Issues have been ignored for far too long.

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    Pretty much.

    I walked by a construction site when I lived in California, I heard everyone speaking Spanish.

    I walk by a construction site now that I live in Indiana and I hear… everyone speaking Spanish.

    I’m guessing that at least some of them aren’t citizens.

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      Anytime you come across someone shitting on immigration ask them who built their house.

      I’ve been saying this for years, the American dream is subsidized by cheap labor from South of the border. Without them we would be doing far worse

      Not to mention illegal immigrants are half as likely to commit crime as American citizens

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        Not to mention illegal immigrants are half as likely to commit crime as American citizens

        It’s like Umberto said in The Ranch: “We live in fear everyday. 5 miles over the speed limit and it could ruin our life”

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          “We live in fear everyday. 5 miles over the speed limit and it could ruin our life”

          Almost every time I was stuck behind a slow person on the L.A. freeway, they were Latino. I guessed that was why back then and I still do.

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      Don’t need to be a citizen to pass eVerify. I’m working with six natural born citizens, one naturalized citizen, three green card holders, three work visa holders and a “dreamer”

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    He knows this. The goal of the billionaires is to completely destabilize the economy, blame it on Biden and take power by force with Trump as the mouth piece. Buy guns, buy ammo, buy bolt cutters.

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    We also wouldn’t have, you know, food, since agriculture and meat-packing are heavily dependent on undocumented immigrants and almost every kitchen in every restaurant in the country is staffed with undocumented immigrants. I want to think that the importance of food and housing would make Republicans not actually do this, but you never know with these crazy fuckwits. Perhaps they think child and prison labor would make an adequate replacement.

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    By saying that, aren’t contractors admitting that they’re doing something illegal, and that undocumented workers are also prone to abuse and lower pay?

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    it doesnt matter. even if trump get elected and all those predicted bad things happen, republicans have no hesitate to spin those onto some leftist/wokish things.

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    Almost all trump related policies will drive up costs for the consumer. He’s only worried about lining the pockets of his rich friends, not making daily life for the average family more affordable

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    I’ll be so glad when this election is over and he can just lose the rest of his criminal cases and get sentenced, or have his final Big Mac Attack and dodge justice forever.

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      I’ll be so glad when this election is over and he can just lose the rest of his criminal cases and get sentenced

      As though there’s any real interest in anything that would result in actual consequences.

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    Everything to maximize profits. and one should examine the US agricultural sector that relies heavily on cheap illegal labor.

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    And then the response from the democratic candidate ends up being “Harris vows to deport Trump. Builders say it would increase their crews and drive down home costs.”

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    You mean to tell me that a real estate investor would do something that would drive up housing costs? You mean to tell me that a guy who doesn’t pay his workers doesn’t give a shit about people who work for a living?