"FEMA also been accused by former president Donald Trump, the Republican nominee, and other Republicans of not being able to respond well enough to Helene because it had diverted disaster relief funds to help migrants.

That is not true, because while FEMA administers the Shelter and Services Program, funding for it comes from a separate pot of money funded by Congress for U.S. Customs and Border Protection.

Other false claims that have circulated include that people taking federal relief money could see their land seized or that that $750 is the most they will ever get to rebuild. FEMA has pushed back against the false claims and conspiracy theories, setting up a page on its website to combat misinformation and rumors."

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    Trump and Stochastic Terrorism - like peanut butter and jelly, salt and pepper, beans and rice.

    Edit: I see I (and other top level comments) have the customary downvote from the silent maga that seems to pay attention to threads like these. Thank you buddy, until I see that one downvote show up with no counterargument to be seen I feel like my comments about Trump aren’t complete.

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    Trump has now successfully sown distrust in FEMA.

    FEMA. An agency created to help people recover from natural disasters.

    We can put that right up on the list with news organizations, the Department of Education, our election system, and children’s hospitals.

    The damage that Trump has done to this country will take decades to recover from. If we ever can. You figure, with the 3 stooges on the bench willing to carry on Trump’s legacy, we’re looking at 40 years minimum of lingering Trump fuckery.

    And there’s a very good chance he’ll become President again. At that point, we as a country deserve whatever we get.

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      TBF, the crazies have been talking about deranged things in relation to FEMA for decades. Like everything else, dementia donnie did not build that, he just walked in the front door and put his name on this shit.

      For instance, the hatriot radio types were talking about Clinton’s “FEMA death camps” way back in the 90s.

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          As to the last part, the reason cons fight so hard against a properly liberal (in every meaning of that term) education is because they know that getting a proper education is highly likely to NOT churn out a reprogrammable meatbot ready for Republicans to dump propaganda in their heads…

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              I think our schools should start teaching critical thinking, media literacy and how to spot and name logical fallacies from a very early age and all through the 12th grade. You don’t have to be university-bound to learn this stuff; this should be foundational. It also gives people the tools to be more autodidactic - the poorly-educated talk about how they “did their own research” and others should do this, too. With proper instruction, I would actually think this is a good thing; however, for people who are primed for nonsense and not armored with critical thinking skills, this often does not turn out well. Otherwise, with a properly educated citizenry, I would think “doing your own research” would not have the negative connotation it now does.

              But schooling should be done in such a way that people can, and have the will to, learn new things.

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              higher learning has been watered down to accommodate all the idiots that don’t want to be there but have to have a degree to join the workforce.

              This. This, this, this, this, this.

              We spent decades telling people, some of which quite frankly have no business in college, that college is literally the only path forward. And then when all of these people show up and find college to be way, way too hard for them, we continued to (and continue to) dumb down the education we provide so more people will graduate with increasingly worthless degrees.

              It’s how we’ve traditionally handled everything in the US. Rather than give people the tools to rise up to meet the standards, we simply drop the standards and then wonder why so many so-called college graduates having no clue what they’re talking about.

              But the graduation percentages are all that matters. Push them through the system for 13 years, give them the same diploma that you give students who actually earned it, and then wonder why employers consider diplomas in general worthless. And the same thing is happening with college degrees now.

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      we as a country deserve whatever we get.

      That would be death, destruction and collapse - enjoy.

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    This motherfucker is single handedly standing up an insurgency in his own country. This is exactly the kind of shit we used to see when we were in Iraq and Afghanistan. And then we had to send armed escorts around with the polio vaccinators, malaria mitigation, and rebuilding teams that were literally looking for locals they could pay to do the job. Which of course feeds right back into the FUD about those guys actually being nefarious in some ridiculous way. This generally lasts until the insurgents get control of an area, do ridiculous shit, and get put on blast for it; or we manage to help enough people that they tell the insurgents to kick rocks.

    I’d say welcome to 2025 but we have (check notes) two and a half months left of 2024 first.

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    Was it not every single Florida Republican who voted no on FEMA relief? 😅

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      Because there’s three modes of call up for the NG. Law and order, for riots and such. Which is what your thinking of, and where they get their rifles and can arrest people. Federalization, where they generally get all of their gear and they generally go into combat overseas. And disaster response, where they only get rescue gear and no authority to arrest or shoot at anyone.

      In short they didn’t do anything because they weren’t armed and weren’t authorized to use force.

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    I pointed out to someone that the SSP money for helping migrants was separate from the billions in the FEMA budget.

    The response I got?

    'I don’t give a shit. We shouldn’t be spending any FEMA money on illegals and should be helping Americans instead."

    They don’t listen. They don’t care. They don’t want to know.

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    Honestly, I really wish this administration would just deploy National Guard. If some dipshit Meal Team 6 types show up and start causing shit for FEMA, dial that up to 11 immediately.

    Start using antiterrorism measures against these assholes. Because they ARE terrorists.

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      Exactly. “We will provide our territory with emergency relief for all who want it. You’re welcome to decide not to accept it for yourself, but not for your neighbors”.

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    This is the world of a maga mental invalid. A world of endless fear and abuse. Tyranny.

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    Alright bros, have fun with no hurricane support!

    Alternatively anyone caught threatening a FEMA agent should be captured and released into the hurricane by plane with no parachute

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      Threatening a federal official is already a federal crime.

      But it’s Republicans doing it so the FBI doesn’t give a shit. Hell there are probably FBI members in the militia (zero doubt local law enforcement is involved).

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      I think a Presidential Order should be issued that someone making threats against those working for FEMA is considered terrorism. And then light up a few of these asshats if they fuck around - let them find out.

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    This is stochastic terrorism and he will keep doing it because he hasn’t suffered any fucking consequences.

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    The red state governors are just mad because they can’t divert the FEMA funds directly into their own causes. (and pockets).

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    Life is the crummiest book I ever read

    There isn’t a hook

    Just a lot of cheap shots

    Pictures to shock

    And characters an amateur would never dream up

    Sometimes, truth is stranger than fiction.

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    It’s “The Running Man” plot! They are just going to AI videos to fit a narrative, and start sending people to jail, or worse…

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    How the fuck are people who are this STUPID allowed to own Firearms? It’s a mircale that these cavemen even know how to operate firearms. What’s next? Shooting at the Hurricane? Attacking Firefighters?