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Fork, blah, blah, blah.

When one of these forks doesn’t depend on Mozilla to do all the heavy lifting of security updates and compatibility fixes, then maybe we can talk seriously about forks. But no fork does fuck-all towards the hard part of maintaining a web browser engine. So forks mean nothing.

Thank you for breathing a bit of sanity into this thread. Same here. Some commenters were like “oh there’s already too many adds” and I was like wait, what? They’re not adding more adds to Firefox, are they? The article doesn’t suggest that.

The “Mozilla bad” crowd echo chamber has gotten completely out of control in my opinion, and it’s an avalanche of low effort comments, dozens of upvotes, and it’s kind of a self sustaining echo chamber that exists because it exists.

No one starts a company because they care about people

Ok sure, what do you want them to do instead then? 80% of their income is reliant on a tech giant’s grace and is seemingly more and more likely to be cutoff soon. They need to survive somehow, and every monetised service they tried flopped thusfar.

I could see them trying to take themselves away from Google which wouldn’t be a bad thing as that’s where most of the money comes from for them … Unless that’s changed recently…

Did I miss something? I don’t think the browser is going to be full of ads?

It’s already been done, LibreWolf is what Firefox originally set out to be.

Advertising will not improve unless we address the underlying data sharing issues, and solve for the economic incentives that rely on that data.

thanks to Mozilla for assuming the responsibility of improving advertising

We can’t just ignore online advertising — it’s a major driver of how the internet works and is funded. We need to stare it straight in the eyes and try to fix it. For those reasons, Mozilla has become more active in online advertising over the past few years. - MARK SURMAN, PRESIDENT, MOZILLA source

if we stay with that metaphor of “We need to stare it straight in the eyes and try to fix it”, it’s not difficult to imagine Mark and Mozilla being swallowed by the monster he’s “staring straight in the eyes” :/

i hope they can filter the shit Mozilla will include in Firefox from mull and mullvad

Is this a response to the fact that they may not get paid for having Google as their default search engine? If so, I worry about a bunch of Linux distributions. It’s ironic that a company’s toxic virtual monopoly was paying for so much open software.

Eh, they’ve been speedrunning this for years, this is just the most efficient way to get to the end goal of complete ruin.

I have a few alternative ideas, but I honestly don’t think they’re interested in hearing them.

Maybe they’ve been infiltrated by bad actors from Google, parading around as pro-privacy frauds.

The thing is, people willing to maintain a fork could contribute to Firefox today, and reduce the development cost, reduce the need for income.

Sure, some people will be more willing to contribute, if it’s a pure grassroots effort, or if they’re left without a browser otherwise, but to just assume that a fork will fix it, that’s wishful thinking.