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    2 months ago

    There have been so many genocides in the history of humanity, none in recent history are unique or the worst.

    If you care about others, you’re exactly the person who shouldn’t kill yourself.

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      If you care about others, you’re exactly the person who shouldn’t kill yourself.

      The carnage just isn’t as entertaining without being able to gloat at people who object to it.

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      If Biden doesn’t ignore it entirely, he’ll call it an accident or whatever Netanyahu-senpai tells him to say.

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        Q — outside an Israeli — or outside the Israel Embassy. Was the President aware of his death? Did he have any sort of response to it?

        MS. JEAN-PIERRE: Yes, the President is aware. And we can — I can say that it is — obviously, is a — it’s a horrible tragedy, and our thoughts are with the family of the servicemember at — during this — I could — we can’t even imagine this hor- — horrible, difficult time.

        Just thoughts and prayers. No acknowledgement of his reasons why, no policy change, just more weapons sent for Israel’s genocide

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          For reasons that should be obvious an individual protest, no matter how extreme, will never be a factor in foreign policy decisions.

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                The true factor is that Israel is a solid foothold for the US in the Middle East long term.

                Well, that’s the excuse.

                Don’t absolve Biden and the US of our level of culpability by reducing us to followers led astray by Netanyahu

                Led astray? No. Enthusiastically complicit.

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    RIP and we are as a collective weather we like it or not. I didn’t forget about a climate scientist doing the same thing.

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    Unbelievable that someone would be brave enough to do this. Respect… rest in peace.

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      No. I refuse to glorify suicide. Anyone thinking of setting themselves on fire needs help. This is awful.

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          He set himself on fire to raise suicide awareness? I thought it was about the Palestinians… Pretty sure everyone was already aware of that situation. In any case, it’s incredibly sad and I don’t support it.

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    What really sucks is that this poor person’s cause will be scooped up and used by groups trying to sow division, and don’t actually give a flying fuck about the genocide. If you want to engage with accounts using him as a bludgeon, look through their history first. If it’s legit, fair enough. If it’s obviously a political account, point out what they are doing and block em.

    This person went as far as they did for their belief. The least he deserves is not being used by fake bullshitters and bot nets. If you can’t agree with that, you’re disgusting.

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        Uh huh. You don’t get to label what I do and don’t support. I’m absolutely against the genocide, but I’m also absolutely aware that there are online campaigns to sway things towards a Trump victory. To deny that well known reality means you are either staggeringly ignorant or complicit.

        If you aren’t either, you’ll freely admit to the truth.

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    If your elected leaders are using your tax dollars to send guns and tanks and bombs to Israel then THEY are responsible for the resulting carnage, not YOU. And your time would be better spent electing better leaders instead of setting yourself on fire.

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      If your elected leaders are using your tax dollars to send guns and tanks and bombs to Israel then THEY are responsible for the resulting carnage, not YOU. And your time would be better spent electing better leaders instead of setting yourself on fire.

      Yeah, but it kinda breaks down at the “electing better leaders” part, since we don’t have an anti-genocide candidate in either major party.

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        Electoral politics ends with the presidency. It doesn’t start there. Bernie worked for progressive causes for decades before running in 2016. He worked his way up from mayor to Congress to Senate. His near miss in the primary in 2020 pulled Biden to the left on several issues.

        If you want to end support for Israel, and I agree we should end support for Israel, even if they stop the war tomorrow. Then you should be writing letters, going to county Democratic meetings and finding candidates to run for state legislature that share your beliefs.

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          If you want to end support for Israel, and I agree we should end support for Israel, even if they stop the war tomorrow. Then you should be writing letters, going to county Democratic meetings and finding candidates to run for state legislature that share your beliefs.

          We just had two demonstrations of how that ends. Their names were Cori Bush and Jamaal Bowman. AIPAC openly bought candidates to replace them. I don’t have enough lifetimes to stop that, and neither do you.

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      Do you think we’d be reading an article about this guy flying overseas?

      The goal is to draw attention to something.

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        I’m not trying to be a dick, just pragmatic. This is the only story I could find on this matter, and I’m guessing very few people are aware that this even happened. I’m just saying I’d think long and hard for an angle that would lead to maximum results if I was ready to die…

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    Do they really think the genocide would stop if the US stopped supporting Israel? Are they really that ignorant of the situation over there?

    Here’s a hint, all indications are that it would make things much, much worse. If you don’t understand how, then you haven’t been paying attention.

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      Here’s a hint, all indications are that it would make things much, much worse.

      It absolutely would, and Israel knows that too. So if there were a real threat of “take it down a notch or US support stops” I’m guessing that might influence Israel. But there is no such threat, they will continue to receive our unconditional support no matter what, and so it will continue until Netanyahu gets tired.