• Omega@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    TBF, he still got some preferential treatment, which he said himself. What if he wasn’t Tyreek Hill?

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      The preferential treatment was that the body cams were just muted during the cover up and not all accidentally turned off for the entire encounter, not getting beaten up, tased or shot.

      I mean as far as preferential treatment goes I’d take that deal, but the fact remains he was pulled out of his car, roughed up, taken to the floor and handcuffed for 18minutes for no reason when the cop should have been writing him a (dubious) ticket.

      There are at least 2 cops here who should not be cops and the rest need to be retrained to ensure they step in if they see mistreatment like this again, for face being fired.

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    The window being all the way down was not a safety issue, but i have zero faith that a court would determine the cops to have used excessive force. I’ll see you all at the next post where nothing changes!

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      I remember a video of a white woman closing the window into a policeman’s fingers, driving off (over his foot?) getting forced off the road again, screaming insults at the police, hitting them with the car door, before they resort to, iirc, a taser or dragging her out (might be more than one such video)

      So in my mind, that’s kind of the ‘gold standard’ for behaviour which only leads to slow incremental steps in the use of force.

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      It was the fully tinted window being all the way up that created the safety issue in the officer’s eyes.

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          Try doing it the next time you are at a traffic stop and the officer asks you not too. See how it works out for you.

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            Really? The advice I’ve seen for years at a traffic stop is to only roll down your window enough to talk to the officer and hand over paperwork and to close it immediately after. Along with not voluntarily providing any extra information and only answering questions as asked.

            That’s for your safety, not theirs. You can argue the full tints, but the vehicle was surrounded by officers and many of them were aware this person was playing football that day.

            In context this is one of stupidest escalations I’ve seen since ever and I can’t believe none of these other cops stopped it from happening. Give this a little more time and the rest of the guys are gonna get lit up along with the dude who’s on administrative leave.

            Like in order to make this shit look ok, you have to full on compare the reaction to someone who was engaged in a crash or hit and run, has a warrant, or is a sovcit. They could run this dudes plates in 7 seconds and understand this dude wasnt a threat, they probably should have escorted him the rest of the way after they gave him his citation! This was a physical response to disrespect, ridiculousintimidation and you shouldn’t be ok with it.

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            Morality? Legality? Ew. Corruption and abusing your monopoly on violence to get away with illegally ordering civilians around? Based.

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      when everyone and their mother has a gun in the U.S., and you’re hiding behind heavily tinted windows, then yes, it is a safety issue. It’s not an unreasonable request to keep your window rolled down during a traffic stop.

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        Don’t take the job if you ain’t willing to take a bullet over a traffic stop. That’s the job. You don’t get to violate rights for your own safety. Your safety is secondary as a cop. If you can’t handle that fact of the position then you would be a shit cop.

        Pizza delivery drivers have a higher chance to get shot than a fucking cop and yet you don’t hear pizza drivers capping people left and right for their own safety. So I don’t wanna hear your bullshit.

        Die for that traffic stop pig. You wanted the badge without the risk.

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          You don’t get to violate rights for your own safety.

          Are we still talking about the window? How did telling him to roll his opaque window down violate his rights?

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    I’ll be honest, I’ve seen plenty of these types of stops on YouTube, I know guilty pleasure, and once he rolled up that window, Black, White, Chinese, Indian, you were going to get pulled out and arrested for contempt of cop.

    Don’t get me wrong, police do racially profile and harass Black people disproportionally and are racists assholes but the traffic stop? I don’t think race played as much of a factor than just good ol’ fragile cop ego where a white guy showing the same behavior would have been mostly the same thing happen, just that the white guy would have been in no danger of being killed but gun or suffocation.

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      It also wouldn’t have made the news. We wouldn’t be talking about a white cop violating a white persons rights either.

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    2 months ago

    I think Tyreek is a piece of shit, but these officers didn’t handle this very well either.

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    I’ll get downvoted, but the body cam footage I saw showed Tyreek talking back to the officer, refusing instructions by rolling up his window, and telling them not to knock on his car window. It’s not exactly surprising he got yanked out of his car. Go ahead and argue it wouldn’t happen to a white person. I’m not getting into that discussion. Perhaps the cops should have attempted to deescalate, but Tyreek did himself 0 favors. Was not surprised that he found out after fucking around with the cop.

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      So you think that we owe abject obedience to authority figures because they might hurt you otherwise but it would still be your fault if they did?

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      I’ve been Tyreek and have been picked up on disorderly conduct charges for mocking a police officer to his face. They did not treat me like that. It was all bullshit too, they just wanted to search me thinking I was an easy target.

      What you’re are saying is the police get your complete obedience no matter what. Frankly, that is just not how humans work. I don’t care if you’re an authority. If you target me I will feel a way about it.

      Edit: BTW charges dropped because being rude is not illegal. Cops don’t just get your complete obedience. That is not the law. It may be a norm but we have the power to change norms. To change laws. Don’t perpetuate your own oppression.

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      My dad once rolled his window up on a cop. He told officer to wait because he was on a cell call with my step mom.

      He didn’t get dragged out of vehicle, the state tropper waited and then gave my dad a huge fine.

      Two things this was the 90’s in Texas and my dad is white.

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      If you don’t do anything immoral, you shouldn’t be arrested. Refusing to submit to cops is not enough reason alone for them to physically harass you.

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        He wasn’t arrested. He was temporarily detained so that the police officers could safely issue a speeding ticket to an uncooperative citizen.

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      What if I told you none of this should matter in how people in positions of authority treat you. The cops were wrong here. End of story.

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      I’ve seen videos of it happening to white people. They are all over youtube. I don’t think k he was wrong for first pulling him out, if the police just let you ignore them they couldn’t do their jobs, but after that he started power tripping.

      Fuck the cops anyways though

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      Okay, I will argue that. Because it wouldn’t have happened to a white person. I’ve seen white people get away with doing a lot more than that to cops.

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        Like dodging charges for assaulting his girlfriend in college? Or how about when he beat his kid and told his wife, “Bitch, you should be too” after she said to him, “your son is terrified of you” the proceeded to threaten his wife to lie to the authorities so the charges would be dropped.

        He acted like the fucking scum bag he is to the cops and he fuckin got what he deserved. Mother fucker has been dodging charges that any non-athletic white person would never get away with. This piece of shit deserves to get hog tied and strung up like s pinata for his son to break open.

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          Sorry, the cops did that to him because of things he did in the past and not at the time of arrest and he was not charged with those things at the time of arrest?

          This sounds sort of like people excusing Kyle Rittenhouse because he killed a sex offender, as if he could have known that.

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      I have no problem with rich assholes getting knocked down a peg or two or three.

      Keeping your window rolled down during a traffic stop is not an unreasonable demand, especially when it’s heavily tinted.

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    Lemmy is turning into Reddit…“if I was a cop…” lol…I mean, we live in a day and age where people are being taught NOT to respect or listen to cops. This is what actually happens when you’re not obeying the officer. It doesn’t matter if your a millionaire athlete, or some homeless dude… you don’t talk back and ignore cops if you’ve been pulled over and/or detained.