Not one word in there about turning to the right, campaigning with Cheneys, ignoring all progressive policies, and generally behaving like R-lite in a bid to court R-votes that never came, with no message other than “look how much worse Trump is”. I’m a little disappointed in Rolling Stone, but not at all surprised that the people they interviewed left those things out.
Ultimately, if this is their analysis, they’ll make the 2016 mistakes for a third time in 2028.
Twelfth.
Democrats fall for this grift so often, they should change the party symbol to a pigeon.
(A Harris source admits the campaign could have made her more available for podcasts if they had more time, saying, “If we had had a six-month runway instead of 107 days … does she do Martha Stewart’s podcast? Does she do something with Ina Garten?… There’s so much, so many things that you can do, but we just didn’t have time.”)
These people will never fucking learn. Martha Stewart and Ina Garten occupy a fraction of the podcast space, which has very quickly come to take up the same platform as late night TV did twenty years ago or radio did before that. Don’t forget that Bill Clinton’s media blitz making him look like a normal, likeable guy is attributed to his presidency.
I don’t like Joe Rogan or listen to JRE but it’s obvious that scorning the largest audience in the world is ridiculous. Bernie did it and the comments on YT are overwhelmingly supportive of him. To just write off that entire audience as a lost cause was campaign suicide, even before the whole “i would put a Republican in my cabinet, thank you Liz Cheney” stuff happened, especially as we keep seeing that this election was determined by poor, economically stunted and socially disaffected young men.
The two examples are rich white women. Just still absolutely tone deaf
No, no, no, surely you don’t get it: the Harris campaign didn’t target affluent, suburban white women enough. With a 6-month extension, they could’ve surely carved out enough support to counter Trump’s gains in literally every relevant demographic.
They just needed more cheneys.
“What would you do different from Biden?”
“Nothing in particular.”
“… you wanna try that one again?”
“I would put a Republican in my cabinet”
How didn’t that work???
The “voters wanted to punish Dems more than they wanted to save democracy” messaging is wild.
They lost because they were offering the same bs they always do. No amount of time would have saved them. Trump won because he said he would do things differently. Harris lost because she wasted time fighting the Trump icon instead of offering solutions for everyday people.
Hopefully this failure will help push forth a party for the people instead of the garbage us vs them that we always get from both major parties.
If they’d had an actual primary they would have gotten the pulse of the nation and wouldn’t have been defending an economy most people thought was bad.
Its crazy, they spent all that money when all they had to say on live TV to win everyone over (if all you want is to win of course) by saying fuck Israel, no more arms, and fuck all of you being poor, we’re going to fix that shit like we did a century ago. Thats all they had to do imo. The Steam from it would have reverberated through every nook and crany.
They could have handled the Michigan problem in a lower key. Letting them speak at the convention and promising real investigations with paused shipments. That way they get the moral high ground for both sides without taking a side.
And as for the affordability crisis. All they had to do was say, we know we have more work to do, we successfully avoided a recession and more we must make sure we don’t leave everyday Americans behind. Then go on to talk about trust busting, grocery prices, housing prices, car prices.
Instead they chose fear mongering and status quo. It was an out of touch campaign run by out of touch corporate elites.
They could have handled the Michigan problem in a lower key. Letting them speak at the convention and promising real investigations with paused shipments.
Exactly. As much as I wish Americans were ready to cut off aid to Israel, that’s just not the case. The majority of Americans disapprove of Israel’s actions in Gaza, but they’re still broadly supportive of Israel. Labeling the conflict a genocide and ending all military support would have won me over, but it probably would have been a net loss. Still, there were a lot of small steps they could have taken to show support to the Palestinian population and capitalize on the growing disapproval on Gaza, and instead they chose full-throated support.
Basically she wasn’t willing to throw Biden under the bus even a little, and that was the problem.
Is it too cynical to say that her billion dollar campaign was a money laundering operation?
A lot of this information is public because they had to file their campaign spend with the FEC. They spent a fuck ton buying ad spots on social media, TV, billboards, print, etc.
They gave a lot of money to their consultants and advertisers, all perfectly legal.
Cui bono?
To be fair, to buy a lot of ads, you typically have to give a lot of money to advertisers.
The economic messaging was the main thing but even taking that as a given that they had to follow their donors’ interests, it was just a really poorly executed campaign. Had to be to get the worst results since the Republicans won California. Tbh Harris just has terrible political instincts and she would’ve never survived a competitive primary (as evidenced by 2020).
One thing that’s staggering to me is that they left Hasan Piker as an untapped resource. I’m not like a big fan of his but if you have this field of streamers where all the big names are right-wing, except one, you should really consider, like, figuring out what he’s tapping into or doing right, idk, hire him as a consultant, go on his stream, do something with him. The Democrats are so slow to adapt strategically while the Republicans are much quicker to adapt, and idk what that’s about, complacency ig.
Obviously the Dick Cheney strategy was completely useless, as usual. Democrats are married to this conventional wisdom, treated as a truism, that the way to win is by appealing to the median centrist voter, along this purely one dimensional spectrum of politics which is completely divorced from reality. I suspect the article is correct that they’re too caught up in analytics that they lose sight of how people actually think.
Meh… Less than 3 million vote swing and everyone is clamoring to explain how this is the most successful precise strategic political victory in history for Democrats. Instead everyone has their own opinion about why it’s the greatest meandering boondoggle ever.
I think the gist of the article is correct. And it could be written a lot shorter. Basically Democrats have ignored men. It’s been about 10 years and they still don’t get it. Men are people too. We vote.
Yeah we suck. We’re shitlord ra[p|c]ists. So forget about men, right? We’re persona non grata. Pretty much the Democrat strategy of this generation. Both parties have siloed into their own base. Unfortunately for Democrats they don’t have the disaffected male vote which is costing them greatly.
This wasn’t so much a political loss for the Democrats. It was a cultural one. Politically the people want liberal policy. As evidenced by the fact that without the lens of partisanship, people tend to prefer what liberals offer. e.g. Obamacare without the stink of “Obamacare” is just healthcare that even republicans support and rely on.
Republicans are winning the culture war which is translating to sweeping political victories. As much as the claim to be taking devastating hits in the face of some made up Democrat goliath of oppression. Reality has proven to be the opposite. Democrats are not in tune with the people. Having entertainment and the music industry has only gotten them 1 for 3 in as many elections.
The article is wrong about Democrats having mainstream media on their side. MSM supports Trump. It was clear in 2016 for those of us keeping score. Trump was the medias favorite to win back then too. They loved the ratings. Now? I think some of them have simply gone mask off. “Sanewashing” as people are calling it. The media won’t cover things as they are. They stretch the overton window to normalize the far right while the left gets no such reciprocation.
The article is also wrong about gamers being historically progressive. This is a fictional archetype of innocent nice-guy nerds. This is basically an entirely made up Hollywood movie trope. Gamers have always been reactionary. The difference is that gamers we’re not political.
And I think “gamer” should be expanded to internet culture. The historically predominantly male online nerd cultures but we’ll keep calling them “gamers” here.
Republicans identified this back in 2016. Democrats are still clueless about it in 2025. Just a bunch of edgelord gamer kids who don’t vote anyways. Those kids are now adults. In fact many of those gamers were adults back then too. Yeah they’re pathetic old man-children playing video games all day but they vote none the less. At least they can be persuaded to which is what Republicans have been doing. So by now Democrats have lost generations of voting age men. They will continue to fight this ever steeper uphill battle.
Nobody on the left has an answer for how to actually reach these voters. It’s made even more difficult when people won’t even acknowledge the fact that these men we’re not ever progressive to begin with. Gamers have always been racist and sexist. The difference that people can’t attune to is that they were not political so they assume these nerds must be progressive by default. Because shouting n-bombs is fine when you follow up with “it’s just a joke bro”. To be frank people seem to have fallen for one of the oldest tricks when someone says “I’m no racist but … It’s just the facts bro. You can’t argue with facts.” That’s a classic gamer-isms / internet-isms.
Gamers did not pivot into reactionary. They were activated politically. It’s an old meme that you would not be anyone’s “personal army”. In other words you’d remain apolitical. Not to be mistaken for not having political opinions but that you wouldn’t be actively engaged in politics. Republicans blew up floodgates holding that back. Another meme was to “hide your power level”. In other words don’t reveal you’re far right opinions. Another thing that was done away with. But really it was a symbolic gesture since nobody really hid their bigotry online. Especially not gamers.
Democrats should have prioritized trying strategize this problem. They’ve had 10 years of ignoring it. They’ve dug their own grave at this point. If they still don’t know these basic things about internet culture then they’re doomed to keep losing in the foreseeable future.
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And here I thought lemmy would be better than reddit.
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You okay?
