You know, at face value he’s absolutely right. We shouldn’t claim care that is unnecessary or maybe even harmful. But where we disagree is that I think that decision should be left to our medical professionals
Really what it should be is that if a doctor prescribes unnecessary care, they should go after the doctor, not the patient. Doctors have malpractice insurance. If the health insurance can’t win a case of malpractice, then they should pay the bill. Why are patients in the midfle here at all.
It’s the same trick as rebranding bank robberies to identity theft. It puts the blame on the consumer who can’t afford to defend themselves.
Huh, I hadn’t thought of that as a Crying Indian.
Patients usually have the least amount of power. That’s why.
My attitude is that if the doctor prescribes unnecessary care there’s a professional board for that.
Though let’s be real, the health insurance for profit industry is the problem and it’s not going to get better until we get rid of it
Yeah, but the professional board is kinda like an HOA board. Should be more like a jury of all regular doctors or something.
I win! Whoosanext?
I miss Anonymous. Those fuckers would be figuratively burning down UHC right now.
they were taken down and then turned into a shell org of the NSA.
it’s a honeypot/scapegoat now.
What actually happened to them? Did key members get tracked down or something?
I don’t have sources, but I seem to recall reading somewhere that the OGs aged out or got caught, and the new gen that replaced them weren’t as ideologically driven or competent or something. I think they still technically exist but aren’t nearly as influential as they once were
Another thought this just popped into my head is that the next generation may not have been brought up with the same fundamental hacking skills that were somewhat inherent in being technical in the late 70s-mid 90s. Could you still learn them?…Of course, but having grown up with BBSs and LoD (Legion of Doom, and the like) and pre-WWW, some things were just more prevalent when it came to learning about the guts of systems and “cybersecurity” (that word didn’t really exist back then).
On the other hand, learning hacking itself is easier than ever. It’s turned legitimate under the guise of penetration testing.
I think they all just got jobs, honestly.
In this economy?!?! /s…kinda
Actually that makes sense, and saddens me a bit there wasn’t a contingent to pass the torch to.
They all got arrested by the FBI.
What did you expect?
We’ve been told for years that herp derp the economy is doing amazing! If you don’t agree there’s something wrong with you! if you got laid off or your corpo landlord raised your rent and you’re now dying in the street well then… look everybody! An evil homeless person lowering your property values with their continued existence! Git em!
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It’s time for that green guy from that one video game that I can’t mention because the auto mods are erasing free speech
It’s WeeGee time.
Can we gamble on how long they have left?
That’d be some good old fashioned capitalism.
I think that would be hilarious but no gambling site would allow it.
the odds are too much in favor of the winners.
Doug Stanhope used to run a celebrity death betting pool where you could bet on which celebrity would be the next to die.
No idea if it was legal lol.
So many internet arguments revolve around binary choices that don’t need to be binary or appeals to authority or hypocrisy as the only leg they stand on.
gonna put this dumb mother fucker on an airbrushed tee like he’s already dead
chalk yourself out ya big dumb bastard, show the sharks where that menstrual leak is bitch-made mf
Luigi.
To be fair, I’ve had doctors pad the bill. I’m lucky enough to have decent insurance and I have a few stories about doctors taking advantage of that.
so does that make it ok for healthcare providers to deny coverage for procedures or medication that has been prescribed due to an illness or ailment impacting a patients quality of life?
No it doesn’t but I can understand why they don’t greenlight everything. This all is a glaring example why we need single payer health care and doctors that earn a flat rate and not get paid per procedure (there is a name for this, i don’t know it).
It’s self fulfilling though. Doctors offices are at the whims of their agreements with the insurance companies to stay afloat. They pad the bill (charging maximum for everything) because the insurance company will only pay percentages on most procedures. Then they usually write off the rest (or close to it). Doctors are incentivized to prescribe certain drugs over others, and other such meddling.
Healthcare costs are as high as they are specifically because of private insurance. The evidence is in every single other developed country that has state-provided healthcare. It’s overall cheaper, and often better.
Insurance companies default to denying claims because they know, if the barrier is high enough (denial after denial), people will simply stop asking for the procedure (or whatever), so they don’t have to pay anything. Then their earnings go up, and they pad their pockets.
To say “insurance company bad” oversimplifies the problem. That’s why it’s foolish to base opinions on memes. Where there’s lots of money, greedy people will find a way to get at it or as I like to say “shit attracts flies”. In my work I deal with private companies that are paid with public dollars. What I see going on has jaded me hardcore. Publicly funding the health care system will be a disaster without overhauling the whole system.
I don’t disagree with you. We can’t simply replace insurance companies with a public version and expect everything to be okay. But Medicare and Medicaid seem to work really well for a lot of people. They can simply expand it, and then private insurance can still exist as a supplement if someone wants.
But what we really need is more regulation, everywhere, on almost all industries.
Gotta kill citizens United, and make superpacs illegal. When money gets out of politics, is when we’ll finally see some change.
