To be fair, a person can be highly upset about Trump and uncomfortable (but much less so) about the transgender bathroom thing. Just a reminder that it’s not a binary world and people are allowed to be imperfect.
I’ll say it. The poster you were responding to is a bigot. ‘Tolerance of bigotry’ is itself bigotry, as it breaks the social contract of tolerance in the same way that bigotry does. By validating bigots, you are showing the minorities they target that you accept the bigotry against them and causing the same kind of harm as the bigot did in the first place.
That’s why they said “more upset about”. If rapists running the country isn’t an issue, than someone potentially entering the wrong shitter shouldn’t even be a topic. Just a reminder that mixed (or as I like to call em; regular) toilets exist without issue all over the world. Like since when are rapists stopped by signs? That’s some “you legally can’t steal from me” logic. It’s thinly veiled hostility towards citizens and it’s unacceptable.
I’m not even trans, I’m just sick of this obsoletely irrelevant topic. People would really much rather punch down at some toothless minority, rather than adress any serious issues.
nah actually if you’re “uncomfortable” around trans people you’re just a bigot. they just want to be left alone, and statistically speaking they are the least likely group to harm you. there’s nothing to be uncomfortable about and and anyone who says otherwise is just making excuses for thinly veiled transphobia.
well, rational explanations backed up with sources tends to be met with “I’m not reading that” from the people who would say trans people make them uncomfortable (and many more issues). I remember in middle school I had some shitty opinions, and people made fun of me for them. guess what, I realized pretty quick that if everyone around me thinks my opinions are shit, maybe there’s a chance I could be in the wrong here. I don’t know when we got the idea that people’s shitty opinions are somehow justified as political nuance once they hit 18, but these people have their head so in the sand they will not listen to reason, even when they are met with data showing how their viewpoints harm themselves, people around them, and people they love. this goes for more than the trans debate too, and I’m tired of people saying “oh well maybe if you’re nice to them!”. if you preach hate, expect hate.
you wouldn’t say you feel uncomfortable around disabled people or a specific race or gay people. why is it different when trans people are the target minority? I just fail to see the logic and I guess I’m just annoyed that I see me and my friends very existence being debated every time I go online.
To be fair, a person can be highly upset about Trump and uncomfortable (but much less so) about the transgender bathroom thing. Just a reminder that it’s not a binary world and people are allowed to be imperfect.
We are all aware that not all bigots love Trump.
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Your question makes no sense.
When did I say you were a bigot?
When did I say I was enlightened?
I’ll say it. The poster you were responding to is a bigot. ‘Tolerance of bigotry’ is itself bigotry, as it breaks the social contract of tolerance in the same way that bigotry does. By validating bigots, you are showing the minorities they target that you accept the bigotry against them and causing the same kind of harm as the bigot did in the first place.
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Yes, being tolerating bigotry makes you a bigot.
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Obviously. That’s why we’re in this “bathroom” situation to begin with.
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That’s why they said “more upset about”. If rapists running the country isn’t an issue, than someone potentially entering the wrong shitter shouldn’t even be a topic. Just a reminder that mixed (or as I like to call em; regular) toilets exist without issue all over the world. Like since when are rapists stopped by signs? That’s some “you legally can’t steal from me” logic. It’s thinly veiled hostility towards citizens and it’s unacceptable.
I’m not even trans, I’m just sick of this obsoletely irrelevant topic. People would really much rather punch down at some toothless minority, rather than adress any serious issues.
nah actually if you’re “uncomfortable” around trans people you’re just a bigot. they just want to be left alone, and statistically speaking they are the least likely group to harm you. there’s nothing to be uncomfortable about and and anyone who says otherwise is just making excuses for thinly veiled transphobia.
Thanks, Reverend, I’m sure shaking your finger and yelling will be a great way to convert 'em.
well, rational explanations backed up with sources tends to be met with “I’m not reading that” from the people who would say trans people make them uncomfortable (and many more issues). I remember in middle school I had some shitty opinions, and people made fun of me for them. guess what, I realized pretty quick that if everyone around me thinks my opinions are shit, maybe there’s a chance I could be in the wrong here. I don’t know when we got the idea that people’s shitty opinions are somehow justified as political nuance once they hit 18, but these people have their head so in the sand they will not listen to reason, even when they are met with data showing how their viewpoints harm themselves, people around them, and people they love. this goes for more than the trans debate too, and I’m tired of people saying “oh well maybe if you’re nice to them!”. if you preach hate, expect hate.
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you wouldn’t say you feel uncomfortable around disabled people or a specific race or gay people. why is it different when trans people are the target minority? I just fail to see the logic and I guess I’m just annoyed that I see me and my friends very existence being debated every time I go online.