This is a genuine question.

I have a hard time with this. My righteous side wants him to face an appropriate sentence, but my pessimistic side thinks this might have set a great example for CEOs to always maintain a level of humanity or face unforseen consequences.

P.S. this topic is highly controversial and I want actual opinions so let’s be civil.

And if you’re a mod, delete this if the post is inappropriate or if it gets too heated.

  • TommySoda@lemmy.world
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    If he gets caught, then I’d say yes. Murder should be treated as murder regardless of what the reason is. Making exceptions is never a good idea.

    I just hope he doesn’t get caught.

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      2 or so years ago I’d have agreed with you.

      But it’s become clear that the wealthy and powerful are beyond the reach of our justice system. coughdementedfeloninthewhitehousecough

      So fuck 'em.

      I understand why they will prosecute him if they catch him, but I wish for him to never get caught, and I feel really confident (given the other signs of planning) that the phone, water bottle, and very public appearance at Starbucks in recognizable clothing are nothing but a red herring.

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    Maybe get a fine for .0005% of their net worth. You know, so they don’t do it again.

    That’s how it works, right?

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      Even if he’s caught. Dudes going to get off if he demands a Jury trial. Not a single middle class or poor individual in America has a positive relationship with health insurance. Hell how does a prosecutor even screen jurors for this type of trial?

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    Do you want to see the people who killed Osama Bin Laden prosecuted?
    Because the United Heath CEO killed far more people, including many more children, than Bin Laden did on 9/11.

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    Yes, hell yes.

    Get this man in a court room. Let the prosecutors spend weeks trying to find a jury where no one (or any of their relatives and friends) has been fucked over for life because of shitty insurance.

    Let them talk about how unstoppable, determined, and committed the defendant was.

    And then have the jury nullify the case.

    It would be a good day to be alive.

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    Jury selection question to weed out biased jurors: “Have you ever had a claim that was unfairly denied?”

    Weeks later: “We have been unable to find enough jurors to try the case.”

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    I want to see a trial.

    I also want to start a go fund me for his or her legal defence find.

    I’d love to see a well funded law firm make the argument that the shooter acted in defence of self and others and drag all of UHC bullshit under a very large and uncomfortable deposition microscope to prove the CEO was responsible for letting people die.

    Maybe we could even start putting these health insurance CEOs on trial for all the wrongful deaths they’re causing without needing someone to take justice into their own hands first.

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      Absolutely no chance for justice in this system for this person. Musk bought a president that staged a coup 4 years ago. The potato supreme has a member that flew the flag of that coup, they are openly corrupt and have no checks or balances. That is the entire foundation of the legislative system and government. This guy was We the People and far closer to a real justice system than anything from this shit government.

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      I don’t think he would make it to trial. The wealthy don’t appreciate those who unite the public against them, and they certainly wouldn’t want him to send another message by having the chance to explain his motives.

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      Id love to see him go to trial, and funds raised through gofundme are used to buy off the jurors and judge. It only makes sense that if the rich can use money to make their problems go away, the poor should be able to do so as well. And that is still within our “legal framwork”

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    Absofuckinglutely not. I want him to never be found and continue to off health insurance CEOs one by one until we get universal healthcare like the rest of the developed world. And after he’s through with them there’s a whole list of other rich assholes that the world would be better off without, starting with the defense contractors.

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    Yes, in a world where judges can’t be bought and criminals don’t get Epstein’d.

    I want fair justice as much fair justice can be attained by humanity. But in that kind of world, this type of murderer wouldn’t exist in the first place.

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      I think that’s the ideal outcome. If they’re caught they shouldn’t be let off scot free (because, like, murder is bad) but it’d be such a fucking circus of excessive punishment.

      If they’re never caught then we can keep it in a moral grey zone.

      Of course, they will be caught because I’ve already dutifully contacted my local FBI branch and confirmed that the woman in the photograph is the CEO of Elevance Health.

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    No. If murdering cops can get away with it, so should someone who killed a guy who has indirectly killed millions through the racket that is health insurance.

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    Honestly, no.

    Not that I’m saying it’s okay to just murder folks, but, with the amount of people the people of his class have killed (either via policies or just the general fucked up shit they do), it seems hypocritical. This man was making 10mil a year killing his customers to fatten his pockets. More money than he could ever spend and still wanted more, like all of them do. People have been killed for less, by police, with them only getting paid leave, so why should I be up in arms now when they called me a terrorist for protesting, when they said “my kind” are damaging the country. People have tried to be reasonable for far too long imo, but the oligarchs just tell us to wait for the trickle down.

    They can wait for my fucks to trickle down 🤷🏿‍♀️

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    no.

    I don’t even care about his motives.

    only reason why, that CEO jackass never allowed thousands if not millions of his customers to defend their right to care. the system he built, maintained, and expanded denied people their justice.

    for that reason, and that reason alone, he and his family should have their justice denied.

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    I hope he’s caught and found not guilty so he doesn’t have to live in hiding for the rest of his life. Just like that kid Kyle Rittenhouse that got away with murder and now has a podcast and people donated a bunch of money to him. If he can do it why can’t this guy.