Summary

Billionaires like Marc Andreessen, Elon Musk, and Vivek Ramaswamy are spreading false claims to discredit the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB), a federal agency protecting consumers from fraud and abuse.

Andreessen falsely accused the CFPB of politically motivated “debanking,” despite no evidence.

This rhetoric aligns with the “DOGE” project, led by Musk and Ramaswamy, which aims to slash government regulations and programs under the guise of efficiency.

Critics warn this effort will harm public services, benefit billionaires, and push privatization at the expense of ordinary Americans.

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      Are you crazy enough to be implying that your own government is your enemy? Public administration is necessary to any kind of social coordination and the reason you were able to leave that comment

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        Yes. Pick up a history book, study the constitution, the bill or rights, and you’ll see that the founders were also crazy enough.

        The billionaires in this country may have many monopolies but the US Government has the monopoly on violance. Counter to what Starship Troopers would lead you to believe, all power is derived from violence.

        You are also wrong about public administration being necessary for social coordination and again you only need a history book to see this.

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          I’m not from the US, so I don’t care about your founders.

          History books, and biology as well mind you, actually say that the actions of a group of individuals working together have more power than those of individuals working alone, and in any coordinated effort there is a subsection of the group that takes care of the whole and marks the pace. Throughout history the civilizations that managed to thrive and leave their mark were those whose governing body was efficient and effective, and there’s no denying that. You may be able to wrangle your friends and coordinate them without a specific administrative role, but try doing that with a group of people surpassing the hundreds of millions and you will have a problem.

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            In this instance, US history is more relevant than your opinions.

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                Most of the history that comes to mind predates 1776, which makes sense.

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                  Stopping your historical studies before things like the end of chattel slavery and the start of the industrial revolution seems like a bad idea. You might have missed one or two significant events.

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                    I’m sorry I think you’re replying to the wrong person as I didn’t say anything about stopping but hey, go gettem tiger.

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              Ooooh nice, an enlightened Libertarian, and one that thinks that Americans are special, unique little snowflakes, different from the rest and immune to the rules that have historically governed the entirety of humanity for millennia

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                  And this thread is about governments in general, and their necessity in enforcing these social contracts you’re referring to.

                  • bradd@lemmy.world
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                    Wrong. You’re responding to me who is commenting on OP’s article.

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          The founders would routinely rape their slaves and participated in scalping. They were day drunk all the time because one of the best ways to clean water was to make it into beer. They didn’t believe in bathing, they thought washing the grime off would let the bad airs in and make them sick.

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            They were day drunk all the time because one of the best ways to clean water was to make it into beer.

            I need to take issue with this part because that is simply not how things worked. The ale that was being made at the time (and had been made and drunk by people for centuries before then) instead of water had an extremely low alcohol content. Even a small child would have to drink a LOT to get tipsy.

            It was generally drunk the day after it was brewed, so it didn’t really have ages to ferment into a potent alcoholic drink. People did drink to get drunk, of course, but drinking small ale/small beer rather than water was not how they did it.

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              It’s not irrelevant. They’re saying that the people you hold up as some kind of supremely enlightened few of a special era, were in fact products of their time who believed in a lot of silly things with no basis in science/reality, and committed many atrocities themselves.

              I was a die-hard libertarian when I was 18. Then I learned a lot more about how the government actually functions. The more you know, the more painfully obvious it becomes that, not only is democratic government extremely necessary to support a civilization of our size, but also that uncoordinated government is literally impossible at scale. Try to lead a group of 20+ people in any activity and the importance of coordinated leadership will become evident very quickly.

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                The government that I am a part of, the society that I am a part of, actually has a problem with rape, torture, and murder. We even have a hard time, as a culture, with capital punishment. That doesn’t mean that we don’t do it but it’s a point of contention.

                What you’re engaging with is known as the “association fallacy”. Here’s some homework for you, have fun. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_fallacy

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                  No… I’m not. Governing people and leading people are the same thing. I’m referencing doing it at two different scales. As you go up in scale, the rules change. Things like authoritarianism, socialism, libertarianism and communism work for small groups of people, but not when you start getting into populations in the millions.

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              Where do you think Jefferson’s Black descendents come from? Who do you think paid the bounties for scalps? Germ theory wasn’t invented yet, they didn’t know why beer was safe to drink or why they needed to bathe. Settlers thought it was strange how the natives would strip naked and bathe in rivers - so uncivilized! Unlike Europeans, who would bathe as little as possible as to preserve their modesty.

              All of this is easily looked up.

              Your idols were evil morons. Read a history book.

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                Unlike Europeans, who would bathe as little as possible as to preserve their modesty.

                Literally just spreading grade-school level misinfo because you never progressed past that level of understanding of history, lmao.

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                I say “if true” and you immediately conflate this to “it’s not true”.

                You people wouldn’t survive outside of your echo chamber, I’m sure that’s why you’re here. There’s no room for independent thought, nuance, or critical thinking. You repeate a narrative and jack each other off all day, it’s disgusting.

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                  Ah yes, the independent thought and nuance of repeating the propaganda fed to you by your own government. You’re such a free thinker!

                  I recommend reading Lies My Teacher Told Me. Then, when you finish that, A People’s History of the United States.

                  But I doubt you’ve ever read even one history book that wasn’t assigned to you by a teacher.

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                    I recommend reading Lies My Teacher Told Me. Then, when you finish that, A People’s History of the United States.

                    lmao, imagine seriously recommending either.

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                    You seem so sure of your assumptions as you mock me as a free thinker. How rich.